First thing I’m testing out with the PTR is a minion build, I got a few ideas I’d like to mess with. Should be fun.
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This is my plan to. With the stat conversion changes + the mendeln ring changes, and just a slew of other changes. There is a lot I want to test and mess around with on necro.
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I’ll be starting minion and, yes, the Priest buffing the player and the Bone Mages casting Bone Spear stood out
Not sure if that is the build I’d do as Cold Mages also seem quite good
yes they will be viable, as they are viable now… just slow and weak, which is not much fun.
You can clear NMV100’s with butcher, Son of Malphas in as well as doing uber lilith in season 3. It just needs a lot of gear and is quite slow.
Season 4 will be a huge spike in power and far more interesting skill design which is amazing!
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viable? if you mean playable for the most content, probably.
but it’s very clear a regular necro build will be better.
Idk giving skellies the ability to cast bone spear would seem helpful especially if the level of the skill transfers
Can’t really say either way until we can get on the ptr.
If Bone Spear is still extremely strong and the minions cast it at the same strength as the one on your bar - that would be pretty powerful IMO. Even if the minion AI is still poor (they said it’s better) just having multi shot bones would be very strong.
Instead of it being a lucky hit proc for your minions to explode x% amount of dmg, it’s going to happen every 6th attack from each minion.
The problem with Mendeln is that it was never based on Minion stats, but rather the players’ stats. So things like +Minion Damage never increased it. It’s unknown if that’s changed or not, but it seems unlikely to have.
Every 6th attack is an improvement as it will at least function with Player Attack Speed and Minion Attack Speed. Does the Ring still have Lucky Hit as an affix? It’s not needed now and should be replaced.
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Haven’t played in a while. Did Necro ever get any love on the movement skill front? Played to like 50 once and seemed kinda slow, but that was like S0/1.
Even if the ring effect it’s self is changed, the lucky hit affix on the ring will still be useful since lucky hit is sill a good stat for builds, even minion. We may end up seeing different kinds of minion builds as well that will utilize lucky hit also. Just have to wait for ptr to mess around with things
My favorite changes
- Blood Mist: Normal speed
- Golem: Player is Unstoppable, activable when CC-ed
- Inspiring Leader: While Healthy, gain 4/8/12%[+] Crit Chance + Minions gain 6/12/18%[+] Crit Chance (Minions inherit your crit ch bonus + get an additional crit ch bonus)
- Skeletal Warriors run ahead and initiate combat
- Skirmishers: Always crit when you crit
- Reapers: Wind-up = 3s CDR for 1 Skill (Ex: Army of the Dead)
- Defenders: Taunts
- Defenders: -99% damage taken
- Shadow Mages: Attacks pierce
- Shadow Mages: You deal 3%x increased damage for each active Shadow Mage
- Cold Mages: Apply Vulnerable
- Bone Mages: 25% chance Bone Splinters / Spear if on skill bar (Passive Bone Spear: 5 Mages x 25% = 125%)
- Bone Golem: Spawn 5 Corpses (Like D3)
- Bone Golem: Bone Spikes when taking damage (Bone Spikes Damage ?)
- Iron Golem: Pulls enemies
- Unyielding Commander Aspect : While Army of the Dead active, Minions +70-84% dmg + -90% damage taken (Build: Thorns Reapers: Reapers: 7 x 3s = 21s CDR AotD, Hectic Aspect: 4s CDR AotD, increased damage good for Thorns)
- Of the Damned: 40-50%x increased Shadow damage to cursed enemies (Ex: Vampiric Curse)
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The same here + Shadow Damage Over Time from Exploding Corpses. But we have to use 1-handed weapon and shield because we need as more free space for Aspects as possible.
50% x 20% is only 10%.
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So everything lol nice
They added minions that will generate threat. That is a major survivability buff.
The changes to the glyphs, if working as intended, look good.
Shadow summoner seems to be what is being pushed. Bone spear summoner will be good as well. Pure summoner really depends on the minion AI.
I don’t think anything specifically is being pushed. I see options being presented, both in terms of primarily minion only builds but also hybrids that can incorporate minions without them just dying constantly.
We may still be a ways before all of the minion issues are addressed but this patch feels like a change in philosophy from minions just being seen as support tools and truly becoming their own playstyle. People seem to be really excited at this prospect.
Yeah, summon mancer looks promiseing. Kalan’s got better, but it’s still pretty meh imo.
For sure, do it. Try it.
That should always be your go-to though. Things change, try it. You don’t need us peons to give you the green light.