QOL why are you pushing us to use 3rd party?

Here is the external link to upcoming helltide across the Sanctuary → https://helltides.com
oh maaaaaaaaaaan…

Why are you(Blizzard) pushing us to use 3rd party sources for D4?!?!!?!?

On the second monitor LITERALLY EVERYBODY will have opened:
https://mapgenie.io/diablo-4/maps/sanctuary
https://helltides.com
https://diablo4.life/trackers/world-bosses
https://d4planner.io/map
https://maxroll.gg/d4/planner/
your OFFICIAL D4 discord channel for grouping… (this is EPIC fail)

Cant all or at least part of this be implemented in game itself???
Message to White Knights: please don’t tell me those will be implemented during some time. It must have been implemented from day ZERO. Because when you buy a brand new car, they wont sell you a car without doors!!!

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At this point, they need to enable mods like WoW so we can use these tools in-game.
It’s getting old having to tab out constantly.

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I could agree at some point IF AND ONLY IF the game is free to play, when I pay $100 at the restaurant they must serve me BEST way they can to make me happy!

In other words why I need to juggle around to setup addons when I have ALREADY paid $100?

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Cause Third Party programs is bannable offense read the TOS mate Code 52? ban? only campaign - #16 by MissCheetah-1661

so yes, yes Drakos, all those things must have already been implemented into the game in order not to use third party software/sites

Because we don’t want to break your immersion. The same reason we decided to not give you a map overlay.

We’d rather you utterly destroy it by forcing you to open the full map and blocking your entire screen every 30 seconds or so in the ‘overworld’.

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I mean, welcome to PC gaming?? Having a tab or tabs open on a Wiki for games that are large and involved has always been a thing, and always will be. Would I like a more obvious Helltide and World Boss notification in-game?? Yeah. But I’m also not gonna act like the world is ending because I have to alt-TAB. And frankly, those sites have a use when you aren’t in-game at all, because they let you know if either of going on and if you should log-in.

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What surprises me is why the game doesn’t auto add those spawns to the right side below the map. The game knows when these events are going to happen, so should we. Legion Events, World Bosses, Helltides, all those could show there, next to the side quests, with the timer running next to the name.

It’s simple info, and it’s actually how it works if you tag the events. All I’m taking away from the work is looking at the map for where those are happening. Instead of the game “hiding” them from you, the game just shows them to you immediatelly.

Maybe they thought why invest dev time into that when the community will do it for us and we will save dev time to release the unpolished product even earlier.

In blizzards eyes, you paid $100 for the current system. Not for future updates (Which is why they have you pay for 2 further expansions.)

Sadly, they planned it all out to make you pay more and more. This is just Diablo Immoral light version until they find a way.

Having 2 expansions in the works is like purposefully selling you an incomplete product.

You know that you don’t need to use any of those things, right? They’re not particularly useful or helpful. The only resource I use is https://diablo4.cc/us/Inventory, and that doesn’t need to be open on a window 24/7.

Build planner? Useless.
Helltide timer? LOL more than useless.
Worldboss timer? Useless.

Regarding helltides, this site is not used for timers but for the chests rofl. Like do you even know what you are talking about?

How about getting rid of this MMO time-gated garbage and letting us play on our schedule? How’s that for an idea?

I don’t want to plan my game time around an MMO schedule. If I wanted to do that, I’d go play GW2.

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Look, I’m all for complaining about Blizzard pushing us to 3rd-party sources, but OP has given terrible examples of third parties that Blizzard has no control over, isn’t associated with, that nobody needs to do and that aren’t even particularly useful, and OP has the audacity to declare that “LITERALLY EVERYBODY” will have those open when 95% of players have probably never used any of them.

Let’s worry about the actual things that Blizzard has actually done to push 3rd-party sources, like doing Official Blizzard world boss timers on Twitter/Discord, or trying to bait people into watching Twitch for Official Blizzard cosmetics.

I mean yes the devs said in the camp fire that the majority of players haven’t finished the campaign.
However the helltides site is currently a must, because of forgotten souls. You need to farm them and the most efficient way to do it, is to collect those mysterious chests. The site shows you the location of these chests and also all events to farm the currency to open them.
So even the average gamer SHOULD use it, if they value their time. This just how it is. And the OP just said that something like that should have been implemented and I think you can agree atleast with the helltides.

This is 100% false.

Helltides pops up all the time; you don’t need a timer for it. And you don’t need the Mystery Chest. Just do it normally a couple times, grab whichever chests you can because it doesn’t matter, and you’ll have enough souls to last you until level 100.

If you choose instead to waste souls upgrading every piece of gear you ever come across, you can choose to do that, but don’t pretend like anyone has to do that or that the game is forcing them. It’s not. Once you get to WT4 and get your base gear set, it can be days or weeks before you ever see a piece of gear worth upgrading. And there’s no need to upgrade before WT4.

Oh boizzzz….
If the website has Helltide timings it meaaaaans Diablo 4/Blizzard have PUBLIC API for it. Then why dont they implement some minor UI to show that timer info in the game itself?!?!?!?!?!?

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I don’t think post needs to be so angry, but largely I agree. Please do not avoid adding QoL such as helltide timers, and world boss timers, just because the community have made their own resources.

I don’t want to open wowhead everytime a helltide spawns for the chest locations. I don’t want to have helltide .com or whatever it is for helltide timer. I can accept things like maxroll’s character builder but thats about as far as I can accept.

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They may nab some of these things and integrate it in some way later, but can you imagine if they’d have to fix all of the things mentioned on top of everything else they’re trying to tape together at the moment? :smiley:
Because they’d not work properly out of the game, aside from maybe a little timer or two.

I don’t mind the third party conveniences so much, but yes, a lot of it they could just shove in-game :slight_smile:

I don’t want to have to (alt/tab on pc) the game to find some third party website that gives me an advantge. Helltides and boss fight notifications are my current usage.