Yeah I hate this… just like leveling services in WoW Classic… f*kin play the game lazy *diots.
But since they have this scaling mechanic… I’m not sure if a higher level player is actually that more powerful than the low one since monsters are ok level for the low and also they give experience. Of course when high level player has Tier4 gear and plays in T2 with the low level.
Yeah I think they need to scale down power somehow if you team up with a low level.
People who really want to have an edge on others by cheating will still find a way. Look at d3. Did no trading fix the botting problem? It didn’t. As long as you hold your principles why do you care about the exploiters?
I was highly disappointed thinking they will completely remove trading in D4, but luckily the Bis items will be tradable. Let there be a free market. D4 is not communism.
Or are you truly afraid by the fact that when the possibility of exploiting exists, like using FG on some obsolete site, or getting items from RMT sites, you won’t be strong enough to resist the temptation to get ahead with your wallet so you want Blizzard to force you in line by restricting everything?
Your argument has so many flaws and fallacies, where to start lol. 
For starters, you used the false dilemma which is the argument that presents a false choice between allowing trading and removing trading, ignoring other possible options or nuances, such as limiting trading to certain items or conditions, or implementing anti-cheating measures. Second a straw man your argument misrepresents the opposing view by implying that they want to restrict everything and impose communism, rather than addressing their actual concerns or arguments. You also used an ad hominem, your argument attacks the character or motives of the opponent, rather than their reasoning or evidence, by accusing them of being afraid, weak, or tempted to cheat. And finally, the red herring where your argument introduces irrelevant topics or distractions, such as d3, botting, FG, RMT, etc., to divert attention from the main issue or question. 
Please check my idea, i am curious what do you think about that:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/trading-in-d4-my-suggestion/13349
Ok, I will see and report back to you in your thread.
I know it’s hard to grasp up from you ivory tower where you leave in an imaginary fair and just world.
Unfortunately most people that would advocate to restricting game mechanics under the guise that this would fight exploiting don’t have the necessary self control and would cheat if given the opportunity. It is what it is.
P.S. This is not the debate class, buddy. I will ‘ad-hominem’ as I please while keeping it civil. Don’t worry, I won’t call anyone an idiot to his face. 
Sorry you feel that way bro. I’m not trying to live in an imaginary world, I’m just trying to have a respectful discussion about the game mechanics. I don’t think it’s fair to assume that most people who disagree with you are cheaters or lack self-control. Maybe we have different perspectives and experiences, but that doesn’t mean we can’t listen to each other and learn something. And yes, this is not a debate class, but it’s also not a place to insult or belittle others. If you want to keep it civil, then please avoid using ad-hominem attacks and focus on the arguments, not the person. Thank you for your understanding. 
Where’s the downvote button?
Diablo 3 Failed because the RMA & Trading was removed resulting in a loss of 98.4% player base. The only thing that Blizzard should do is creating 2 types of ladder: 1: THIS IS THE BEST LADDER (this is for people who have not traded on their account) and then there is another ladder: THIS IS THE NORMAL LADDER (for the non-narcissists). This way the very small percentage with a big mouth who only care about their name on the ladder instead of the fun for others are being served and the rest as well.
W8 W8 … ppl get half day on Christmas eve? what?
Lol not true. Diablo 3 is one of the best-selling PC video games of all time with 30 million copies sold worldwide. It also broke several presale records and became the most preordered PC game to date on Amazon. It sold more than 3.5 million copies in the first 24 hours, and 12 million copies by the end of 2012. Also, there is no evidence that removing the RMA (Real Money Auction) or trading has resulted in a loss of 98.4% player base.
So, you are asking blizzard to remove the fun for 98,6% of the players while the only thing you would need to do is not to use the trade button? you are a complete narcissist. If you don’t believe go find the wiki. I’ll quote a little for you: " Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive preoccupation with oneself and one’s own needs, often at the expense of others. ". Leave others alone let them enjoy what they like while you can enjoy your game. there is no-one who forces you to trade. Maybe blizzard could add a setting on account level: Are you narcissist or not? when you select yes: there is no social interaction and you will only be placed in solo games and when you select yes, you are placed in games with others and the trade button appears.
lol… it is true, it is still the best selling Diablo game. But after the removal of the RMAH and trading, 98.4% of the players stopped playing (just google it). After that Blizzard had to fix a game that was designed for trading with crazy item sets and mechanics to make the game playable for a very small amount of players
You are making a false dilemma by implying that trading is the only source of fun for most players. Trading is not the core feature of Diablo 3, but rather a secondary option that some players may enjoy, and others may not. Trading also has its drawbacks, such as creating an imbalance in the game economy, reducing the incentive to farm for items, and enabling scams and hacks. Some players may prefer to play solo or with friends without trading, and that does not make them narcissists. Narcissism is a personality disorder that involves a lack of empathy, a sense of entitlement, and a need for admiration. It has nothing to do with whether one likes to trade or not in a video game. You are the one who is being disrespectful and intolerant of other people’s preferences and playstyles. You should not impose your own idea of fun on others or insult them for having different opinions. I have an idea for you Duke, Maybe Blizzard could add a setting on account level: Are you respectful or not? When you select yes: you can have civil discussions with other players and respect their choices. When you select no: you are muted and banned from the forums.
Are you crazy? if there is no trading, there is no game economy… what are you thinking?
I am not asking you to trade or force others in to trading… just don’t trade if you don’t want to trade, how freaking simple could it be? you play your game i play my game (with the 98.4% of the rest of D4 players)
I am D2 fan but I agree trading will bring more bad than good. It’s more fun to loot than trade on weird websites. Also p2w, botting, spamming in game it’s all real.
I came back when they removed it lol. I lost any will to play when I just bought best items and rolled through content that was challenging before.
Full Trade against No Trade Systems Pros and Cons:
Full Trade:
Pros:
Cons:
4yi thats the d2 System
No Trade:
Pros:
Cons:
Maybe that explains to some of the Guys here why there is such a strong Bias for either types.
Blizzard is trying to cater to both, by doing a lite Trading System, im curious if that really works in the long run, Time will tell.
Personally i hate Trading, but i can get behind the People who love it. There is no right or wrong here, just difference of opinion.
If they did full trading i would not have preordered the game, cause of the miserabel experience d2 was for me. (after realizing what they did), but thats just me. I would just have moved on.
D2 is not D4, again, if you don’t want to trade, don’t trade… There is no Win in any Diablo Game, there is only entertainment. if you watch Netflix, do you want the show maker to let you win? really… what is going on with people’s heads.
No, I am not crazy. I am just expressing my opinion, which is different from yours. Trading is not essential for Diablo 4 to be a fun and engaging game. There are other aspects of the game that are more important, such as the story, the gameplay, the graphics, the classes, the skills, the items, the monsters, the dungeons, the quests, the events, the challenges, and so on. Trading is just one option that some players may like, and others may not. A game economy is not a necessity for a game to be enjoyable. In fact, trading can have negative effects on the game economy, such as creating inflation, deflation, or stagnation of prices, reducing the value and diversity of items, and enabling cheating and exploitation. Trading can also undermine the sense of achievement and satisfaction that comes from finding or crafting your own items. It can make the game too easy or too hard depending on how you trade. It can also create social pressure or conflict among players who have different expectations or preferences about trading. You can play your game and I can play mine (with the 1.6% of the rest of D4 players who share my view).
yes, you came back, many narcissists did and played a solo game, please continue to do so. D4 is an ARPG MMO designed for trading and player interaction.
but just google how many of the daily 5.2M daily D3 players left after the removal of the RMAH & trading.