Since everyone else has had their self posts I feel like I’d quickly knock out one that puts into words what I’ve been feeling about last weekend’s beta since I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say anything too similar.
Diablo 4 is a fun game that I don’t think I’d regret purchasing. However, I also think we’ve seen more of the (current) game than I think we have going off closed endgame beta player reactions and datamining.
Blizzard can (and will) add more content, more legendaries, more everything later, but I am also concerned that some of the MMO aspects of the game will make seasonal play less fun. I couldn’t be bothered to go out of my way to collect Makoko seeds the first time around in Lost Ark, I’m not gonna want to do LIlith shrine hide and seek every 3-4 months on the dot.
I also think the leggo affixes are just strong enough that most builds are going to be coming down to picking the strongest/most synergetic ones and a lot of potential build options will be squandered due to not having access to leggos as a force multiplier (see: Diablo 3 and sets)
This is not necessarily a terrible thing, most games aren’t built for forever play, and I think that thing tends to burn people out when the devs can’t keep everyone happy and maintain a pace of development that keeps things fresh (look at all the people with 5k+ hours in POE who now insist POE is a bad game because their pet build/mechanic got nerfed)
I think Diablo 4 is going to settle in where Diablo 3 has been for me for years, a game where I go back and play maybe once a year and call it good. And that’s fine.
I personally think the Live Service model needs to just go away.
If they designed this with Diablo 3 in mind, I remember them saying about Diablo 3 that it was intended to be a game you pick up every now and again.
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I think end game itemization is still a big question mark with uniques and other rare tiers of items announced but not shown.
If it becomes like D3 where gear is easy to find and you’re just chasing a better version of it, then I’ll get bored pretty quickly.
How do you judge a forever anything when only getting a taste.
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none of us know how they will do seasons. I am worried they will mess it up. I can’t really give feedback on something I’ve never seen though. no one else can either.
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Many of us hoped they would learn from the mistake that was Diablo 3 and learn from what Diablo 2: Resurrected brought back to the franchise.
They did not.
We are getting Diablo 3.5.
Many of us long time Diablo fans, coming from the wild west days of Diablo 1 and 2 wanted to go back to that experience of the game be more of a free for all. A grittier experience. One that had replayability week after week, month after month, and year after year, with little or no changes to the core game.
Diablo 2 didn’t new flavors of the week just to appeal to people. It had everything it needed out of the box. It only improved on it later and made the game more interesting with v1.12.
It’s still being played regularly today by many people and having broad communities across a spectrum of play styles.
If I search Diablo, I will probably see more youtube channels about Diablo 2 than I will about Diablo 3… They have to ask themselves, “Why is that?” and “What did they do wrong in Diablo 3?”.
The problem is they have repeated many of the same mistakes they made in Diablo 3 with Diablo 4. All I can say is hopefully we actually have PvP that is worth a damn and they will not forget about the vast trading community that powers the game of Diablo 2.
From what I’ve heard from people who played closed alpha, for the most part, we’ve seen how itemization works, it’s not like D3 where uniques really don’t get good until ROS, we only aren’t able to get the ancient leggo equivalents and aren’t getting the paragon board.
As far as what I think the endgame gameplay loop is going to be, I think it’s going to be hunting down the highest rolled legendaries so you can staple that effect onto your best rares.
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not to mention uniques. some of those look interesting
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Nothing will ever achieve greater then your memories my friend, that was years ago and the game at the time was novel and new.
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They’ve pretty much laid it out for us.
The game is going to have a seasonal battle pass, there’s a paragon board that goes on forever, world bosses (as it is now) only spawn at specific times.
I can see the world boss thing being the reason to log in weekly to farm loot similar to how you do raids weekly in WoW.
Everyone wants to experience what they felt years ago and to be blown away by whats already happened, all while remaining close to the original… good luck with that.
I don’t know. I can jump into D2R and it’s still just as good as it was in 2000 and actually better now in many ways.
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Honestly, yeah.
D2 is a game I didn’t get to until years after it came out due to my heavily christian parents not being willing to get it for me in my teens, and while it holds up as a genre classic, it’s not a game I’d see myself playing forever and ever. Probably partly because I don’t really have the nostalgia for it.
That’s kind of disappointing if that’s the case. Nothing was exciting about D3 loot. It took me less than a day to get every item I needed, and then I was just chasing better stats of the same items for the rest of the season.
I’d prefer to find junk loot in general, and then find a game changing unique item after many hours of gameplay.
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That is sad, to prevent access to a virtual fiction because of an actual fiction.
This is a pretty big negative for me as it stands depending on how its implemented, imo.
I’d be able to deal with it when I was in my 20s in college but I can’t even raid these days due to being on call in case I’m called into work because an API goes down or something.
If I can’t just jump in and play when I want on my terms, that suuuuucks
You must have had incredible RNG, although i think i understand what you mean to say in that loot was just to predictable and cookie cutter, no variety no surprises.
Meh, it was basically one game and Magic cards I wasn’t allowed to have, could have been worse.
Wasn’t like my parents were braindead satanic panic folks, just that it was a bridge too far for them to want to purchase personally and by the time I was in HS and had my own money I was more focused on WoW and building my own crappy little indie games and such
Ok but superstition is superstition, not healthy in general and not something to pass on to children.
but those are deeper thoughts then this forum can accommodate.
The forest is Evil!
Why?
Because its dark and mysterious
Has anyone been in the forest?
NO!