Let us trade everything, everyone knows at the heart of a great arpg and the longevity of it is trading and the economy, there is already duping going on like crazy anyway. You think D2 would have lasted as long as it did without trading? Or poe?
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No thanks. We dont need more RMT in the game.
Perhaps a BOP with limited trade like D3.
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They have a mode for the 1% like you that donât want trading, itâs called SSF.
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Naw dont need SSF but people who argue for trade:
- Want to play trade simulator
- Bot
- FG
- Credit card warriors
- RMT
There more negitives to open trade. The game doesnt need an economy just need D2 drop rates.
Uncommon uniques already drop at a super high rate. To high imo
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they funny part about your reasoning is that d2 had this abyssal droprates, because of trading to counter inflation.
I dont mind lower droprates, but i think the game in its current state isnt balanced for having subpar gear, its balanced around havin almost perfect gear.
And yes trading should be removed if they dont have rules/restrictions for it to make it not as abusable as it is now.
I found all my stuff in D2R. It was a nice change from sitting in lobbies trading. D2R also had higher drop rates than D2 1.09.
Still got multiple everything in each season but there were actually rare items unlike D4 where everything is common outside of uber uniques which are uncommon.
Nah, i think if they allowed us to trade everything, everyone would see how empty this end game really is, trading is essential to success. And it will give us more time to push leaderboards in S3 then grind for 2 months for Ubers, for people with spouses, kids, jobs etc⌠the vast majority of us have lives and canât blast 24/7. But I guess blizz doesnât like money.
you are talking about d2r, there is a difference to d2
no thanks , i donât want to see another RMT and botting wasteland like D2 and D2R were thanks to jsp and full open trading.
also thereâs plenty of players asking for no trade :
and the devs themselves said some items should only be earneable through playing.
so thereâs that.
if some canât be bothered to farm their own item in a farming game , especially what are supposed to be the rarest itemsâŚwell itâs an aarpg, farming is key and oneâs shouldnât feel entitled to get everything handed to them.
D3 system would be ok since you could give it to only the player that was in your party at the time of the drop.
otherwise , huge no from me.
you arenât entitled to get every rarest item of the game if you donât put some hour in it.
i also play quiet casually due to irl matter.
yet i would never cry to get things faster : i prefer getting items on my own and make do with whatever i find.
Uber unique are already quiet common
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It really isnt. Trade only shows how 3rd part and RMT allows credit card warriors to just buy everything instead of playing the game.
Exactly this.
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I respectfully disagree. Loot deprivation, starvation and sadistic D&D derived and inspired drop rates.
Too old for that nonsense.
By pairing that with âThe game doesnât need an economyâ - while I despise the idea of âeconomyâ in a game, the only way D2 rates function is with Trading.
So itâs kind of a contradictory statement.
If you want D2 droprates for the sake of it - then thereâs D2 and all the masochistic fun to be had waiting for everyone who wants that âexperienceâ.
Primal %'s are fine a la D3.
85+ zones/mlvl and be done with it.
Uncommon vs âUberâ - ridiculous to ever have gone that route to begin with as itâs brought everyone to this point of contention.
Another naive D4 decision.
Scrap it, remodel, move on.
Edit - Per post title/suggestion: Iâd rather not see much of anything be tradeable.
This game is infested enough as it is with âD2â bot/rmt/dupes. Unbelievable.
The only way to âkeep it honestâ is find common ground.
Difficult considering they went crossplay and PS is a cesspool of exploits.
Therefore - the only recourse is modifying drop rates to something less than âonce in a lifetimeâ, global + maintain targeted and make it all BOA - gold too. Sorry.
All your white nighting aside, do you really think D4 is bot free? Seriously?
Did you read what I wrote?
Responding to the wrong person?
Iâm disgusted thereâs Dupes, RMT and likely bots in this game⌠kidding me?
Cognitive skills is key.
thats a forum thing. Most ppl read the first sentence, if its in agreement then they upvote it, even if the rest of your statement is the complete opposite. If its not its basicly a personal attack 
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I agree. But, hypothetically, IF they ever allowed tradable uniques in this game, i would definitely be a HUGE seller for all the little piggies with incurable cases of FOMO. I destroy so many uniques it is sickening.
I have like 3 gf in my stash and I have no idea how many rings lol.
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i think trade is fine as it is. if they moved duriel summoning mats to the materials page then we wouldnt need open trade for ubers. it would get rid of duping summoning mats and trading for them. there would be very few ubers and people would have to earn their ubers from farming their own mats. you wouldnt have people with duplicates whining for trading of ubers because they probably wouldnt even have any
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There was also hacked items, duped items, and a ton of scamming going on in D2. Ebay was LOADED with RMTâŚâŚask me how i know.
If that is what you want, then expect things to me MUCH worse.
HOWEVER, i suppose i would be OK with it in eternal. Let them play how they want there. BUT they should keep season as clean as humanly possible. No duping, no trading uniques or legendary, and all materials are BOP.
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LMAO , your still spewing your nonsense in here as well I see. What does it matter if trading is allowed or not. D4 ALREADY has an issue with people buying and selling mats as of this season. Your WHOLE point goes RIGHT out the window⌠So punish %90 of the players that WANT fun AND a Economy, because the few %10âers wanna bot/cheat/exploit/etcâŚ
That is the most STUPIDEST spew of nonsense Iâve seen you type⌠NO RMT, Botting, FG, etc, are already in this game and Trading is Non existent as is as we speak. Your whole point of âtryingâ to prevent bots and such doesnt matter when itâs already happening IN this game already⌠Trading would Help so much and reduce the amount of tension/and posts on this forum/game. People are getting annoyed with spending hours grinding their life out because âwe needs mats to farm ALL bossesâ, and thats not including the abysmal % drop rate the devs think is âfunâ, Hence (THINK), NOT IS. 2 different contexts.
People and the devs are calling this game an Open World/ARPG game. For an open world its lacking %90 of the BASIC open world (IMO MMO) features⌠Trading, economy, LGF, Raids, etc. For a BASIC ARPG its lacking, fun, diverse builds, non repetitive loops, etc. The devs NEED a CLEAR vision, and idea/path/ internal roadmap they can follow, Otherwise its just going to end up a complete an utter Failure as a game.
Now with leaks about the EXP pack costing $100 give or take, (regardless if its true or not) comes of as delusional and greedy. Devs-- âwe know you need stash tabs, we have X issue Because Y reasonâŚâ Players â âWE DONT CAREâ. Just fix the problem YOU (the devs) created. As shown in multiple YT videos of blizz trying to âsellâ stash tabs, when it should be fixed in the game NOW. Anyone else also get #flashbacks from D3 Loot issue? That was solved with ROS? Seems familiar does it not?!
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You mean the 10% that want to play trade sim or be that credit card warrior?
Your right which removing trade all together and/or adopting the D3 trade system is the best way to combat this.
It doesnt matter ppl are going to complain about everything. Open trading just brings toxic behaviors.
Its an aarpg which is a grinding genre. The drop rate for uncommon uniques is exceptionally high. Too high imo. They are already higher than anything from D2 and these items are supposed to be rare.
This is disingenuous. It was a survey that had price points between 40-100 but people only want to see 100 to make some silly argument. Marketing surveys like this occur on a regular basis across all industries. I dont understand how people are surprised.
We will see what they do and hopefully âsimplifyingâ doesnt mean turning it into the horrible RoS loot 2.0 of ms/cc/cdmg.
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