Wudijo just posted his video titled " Is Diablo 3 still a better game than Diablo 4?"
What do you think of his reasoning? Do you agree or disagree?
My 2 cents - I always knew that the ex-D3 streamers wanted Diablo 4 to turn into Diablo 3 2.0, and his video further adds to the growing list of evidence to this idea.
As for the rest of his video, it’s everything I’ve already talked about multiple times over the years, so it’s nothing new to me, but it might be new to those less addicted to being online.
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There’s pros and cons on both sides. My personal opinion is Yes -the 2025 D3 is a better game then 2025 D4. Things you can do in D3:
Replay the campaign
Fight the prime evils
Build viable set and non-set end game builds (LoD)
More classes
Play offline (switch)
Interesting seasons
No micro transactions or season pass
Craft gear to boost alts
Eternal gear remains fully viable
Better performance
No wandering round a pointless open world
More diverse biomes and dungeons
Better boss fights
Less mandatory grind for everything
All gear can drop anywhere - no more duriel farming
Kanais cube - so much versatility
Tons of interesting legendaries that can unlock off-meta builds, especially for levelling
Goldwrap builds
It’s even got a cow level
Follower gear that emanates for even more effective powers
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For me, I don’t like the d3 necro having so many summons that are essentially temporary (ie it playing like “I have a few guys, summon several more guys and win, then those summons dissipate, repeat”) I like that my guys in d4 are relatively more permanent.
I also don’t like it to the point it’s a dealbreaker that pc d3 still has no controller support. My repetitive stress injuries can’t carry mouse and keyboard anymore, so even if there are some things I like better about d3 than d4 not being able to use the controller is the ultimate decider.
Also, I recently sold my ps4 so as to get something out of it before it’s rendered completely worthless. I could never really get into any consoles post SNES. I am not going to buy a console just to play d3 on a controller, I will settle for d4 100% of the time before I do that.
Those things aside, maybe the graphics? At least I can pick a hair style in d4 in d3 what you see is all you get and that was fine then, but maybe now not so much.
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Diablo III was never good.
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In a lot of ways, yes.
I like that D4 allows target farming, but the way it is done is kind of boring. D3 allows blood shard target farming, though, so at least there’s that. D4 has more diverse end game, some of it interesting (hell tide) some of it not (pits: grifts, but worse.)
I’ve played enough D3 that I’m pretty sated on it. Still, I’d like to see sort of a “fun mode” or “customization mode” where you can tweak settings, such as:
-Higher primal drop rate
-More mystic slots re-rolled per item
-Altar in non-seasonal
-Those…mat dungeons things? in non-seasonal
-No Kanai equip restrictions (any 3)
etc.
I’d also like to see a dodge added to it. I’m so used to it now, D3 feels weird without it.
Something like that would eat up my time for quite a while. Of course, since that doesn’t make Blizzard money, they have no reason to do something like that nowadays.
I stopped playing D3 when it was placed on life support 
. Both games have good and bad features. The two good things that they added to D3 prior to life support was the follower revamp (superior to the D4 mercenaries) and the Altar. I also liked that you could earn 5 extra stash tabs from the seasons. I do not really care about Wudijo, Rod or Rax. I generally watch the people who cover Diablo lore.
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Yeah, for me personally I hated the RMAH early phase but really dug into it when they removed that post expansion.
Problem is I probably have two fully geared characters of every class I wanted to play. Of course seasons have introduced a few tweaks but for me at least, once I’ve known what being a max level monk feels like, there’s really no walking that back.
I play this game because I haven’t really experienced the end of the line yet. Once I do, I’ll look for the next thing. Simple as that.
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Yes
/omgmorecharactersyouguys
D2 > D3 > D4.
But D4 has better graphics so wins by default.
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And d3 sucked moose balls
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I would say Diablo 3 is more of a complete game. Now it took a while since launch to find out its identity, but it has established itself in the genre, whether you love or hate it.
D4 on the other hand feels more like a copy+pasta of previous games, but they keep screwing up the particulars. Not to mention the non-stop bugs every major patch. I think it’ll establish its own identity given enough time, but it’ll take several years, just like D3 did.
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If you took the greater rifts/leaderboards out of Diablo 3, it would literally be one of the worst games I can imagine. It’s a credit to the Diablo IV team that they made this game playable without them. Saying that, if Diablo IV had leaderboards, it would be that much better of a game. Right now I am alt-tabbed out of D3 posting on the D4 forum. That about sums it up for me, lol
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Since they have both destroyed the IP, neither
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I havent watched it (yet), but what I see definitely in better shape is the skill customisation of Diablo 3, the visuals in particular. D4 should have taken skill nodes in that direction, as the effects, especially in the beginning, are underwhelming.
However, leveling up skills with points and getting them on equipment as affixes is a very good addition. Increasing those levels should generally offer more interesting effects, like for size, projectile count, cooldown reduction.
Combining the two seems like a necessary thing to do with a hopefully forthcoming revision to the skill tree.
I couldn’t care less what a streamer thinks about any game.
As you can see from the responses everyone has their own view on which is best.
Gaming and players were better off before the blight of streamers was cast upon us.
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Love or hate sets, it makes multiple very viable specs for each class, with several different variants for each set. Each season a different set of variants become top dogs. Sure some classes are better than others, but nothing to the degree we see in D4 where each season 1-2 classes just is hopeless whilst 1 class totally dominates and does many many times more damage than any other.
But the biggest D3 plus for me is that gear can drop anywhere, so i can play as i like and stuff will drop. Even after this many seasons i still get a couple of moments of YESSSS a season. Comparet his to D4 where you have to farm the same spots over, and over, and over…
Other things D3 shines at is that i can actually see stuff that will kill me (well mostly), in D4 its all a 2tone blur.
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No they don’t, not innately. Sets are subject to the same bad, lackluster, or short-sighted design choices as anything else in Diablo games. The variety of truly viable sets in D3 came about after years of tweaking.
EDIT: For clarity-I very much enjoy sets in D3. I took your comment to mean sets by default provide viable variety-which I disagree with wholeheartedly. If you just meant they are good in the current state of D3, then yes, I agree with you.
it has some good things… but i agree… i hated it since launch (pre order)
Why do we concern ourselves with the opinion of a cheater?
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