I’ve watched numerous streamers thanks to the PDF blizzard provided for official twitch streams over the last few days. Every group I’ve watched has been using the leave party and rejoin method to instantly reset the dungeon and then they run through kill all elite packs. Then rinse and repeat. Averaging ~1 hour per lvl at 88. Sometimes faster or slower.
My point is, the use of in game features for something other than what they were intended to gain an advantage over someone else is game breaking. I’d personally love if I could run dungeons over and over min maxing my experience gain by killing elites. I can’t though. I play solo.
Create bigger dungeons with annoying gaps? Sounds like a lot of work and agitation from players.
How about adding a quick reset button for solo players to reset the dungeon as well?
I know this already way to late as most damage has been done and there are players going to hit max lvl in a couple hours due to abusing party making and disbanding mechanics such as this. But better late than never and hopefully some type of redemption event can be held in the future.
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HOTFIX 4 & 5 - JUNE 4, 2023 - 1.0.2
A server-side hotfix was rolled out this evening. Hotfixes occur in the background and will not require a client-side patch.
Bug Fixes
Decreasing the elite spawn rate in Dungeons could be a response to an experience gain exploit that players have been using to speed-level in these dungeons. The decreased spawn rate of these elite monster packs should limit the usefulness of this leveling method.
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It’s “clever use of game mechanics”, not “mechanics abuse”
If there is an advantage to take within the game, people will use it. It’s on the devs to try to find these things beforehand and prevent them from happening. Sadly, Blizzard are awful at this in general, they have little to no ability to think ahead more than 5 seconds and consider how people will interact with the game
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Yeah it was just hot fixed. They need to cancel the HC race for many reasons.
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In most games, blizz ones included, “clever use of game mechanics” can lead to account bans or, in some cases, whole server rollbacks. Each scenario can be different tho.
I see we are just sweeping it under the rug with a hotfix after the damage has already been done
Seasons are likely doomed, guys. Blizz can’t be bothered to rollback or ban people exploiting game, make sure to abuse all the new exploits that will be found!
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Depends on the extent of the bug yeah. It’s basically just pure RNG. If 99% of the playerbase abuses a bug? They aren’t going to ban 99% of the playerbase
If 30 people discover a bug and exploit it for weeks, even if it’s minor? Could be a ban
Depends on the type of bug and how much damage it caused yep. In the 1st scenario it should end with a server rollback. With the 2nd some bans should be expected, completely agree with that.
Anyone abusing some obvious bug should be banned anyway imho.
Some people even when they know of the exploit or bug in question, don’t abuse it.
Its called morals.
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The only thing creative is how the streamers are getting it all hotfixed.
To be fair it’s hard to know what is or isn’t a bug/exploit sometimes. I mean, dungeons resetting by leaving / joining a group? That doesn’t really feel like an exploit to me. There should be a way to reset dungeons imo, it was a very simple and intended feature in D2. You just leave the game, make a new one, everything has reset
Then you have stuff like prayer flicking in OSRS, not an intentional mechanic but has been used for years and at this point is basically just a feature
Or the old Tribes thing where people would exploit the engine to ski around the map at insane speeds, which is now pretty much the only thing Tribes is known for and is a built-in feature in the sequels
Giving another Blizz example, in WoW you could argue that forcing mobs to evade is a bug or exploit. Should you really be able to jump on specific parts of the scenery and prevent any mob from hitting you? Probably not… yet it’s still a thing, and has been a large part of the game for years
There is a race, and they are getting more experience then is intended.
They know what they are doing.
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If I didn’t know better, I’d just assume it’s an extension of the “dungeons reset when you TP” function that was in Server Slam.
Like I said in my first post, if there’s an advantage to take in the game, people will do so. It’s on the devs to find those things beforehand and prevent them from happening. Blizz are just awful at this type of thing, they aren’t very good at thinking ahead and considering how players will use their systems
Imo there should be an easy way to reset dungeons. Just give us a button to reset them like in WoW. If dungeons are supposed to be something we can farm, then let us do so whenever we’d like to
The easy solve is to ban the filth.
But I guess companies just like their money to much ^^
They do it because they can get away with it. If they didn’t then gg.
And they can’t even make it somewhat fair? at least not have a game breaking bug like curator not spawning with minions?
The integrity is going to crap real quick in this one.
There is no integrity. You just have to look at solo vs group play to see that much. Just gotta hope they improve it over time, hopefully before season 1 launch
With the Curator bug effecting the race for over 24 hours, I doubt it brother. Sad af thats still in here.
The Blizzard mantra is, as always, to exploit early exploit often 
Of course I just watched this video this morning:
