I'm level 42 now, when does the game start?

I’ve been playing for a few hours now this week and I’m pretty bored at this point. Nothing I do really seems to matter, I just go from point A to B and click on the enemies. In D2/D3 your build would change pretty dramatically as you picked up strong items and hit break points on the skill tree. Right now, I already have my end-game skills and I have spent the last few hours just ticking up +3% damage passives that work only under certain circumstances. I just switch my items to whatever I find that has a bonus in green text and this is working fine. I clear basically any mob without trouble.

I haven’t had the game for all that long and this is my first playthrough but how much more of this slog do I have before items and character choices matter? At this point it feels like I am playing the early levels of some aim trainer and there are no decisions to make at all. I am bored. What am I missing?

edit: to be clear, I am not using a guide anymore I just used it to make sure my skill selection was sensible. I only swapped one skill. ITs not like its difficult to select a few skills for leveling in this either. Its pretty standard arpg stuff. Everything that is bothering me would be exactly the same if I start a new character and don’t look up any info from other players.

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You are literally playing it. What you described is all you will get until level 100, except it gets worse because you no longer get gear upgrades. Congratulations!

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Refund in silence. Pretty simple.

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Level 1, obviously. Don’t be silly.

In all seriousness, min/max continues throughout the game.

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This is it man.

This is d4. Hope you had fun. Took years to develop this game

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:musical_note: “Hello D3 my old friend…” :musical_note:

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I was actually hoping for some feedback on when people who are level 100+ felt they started to make impactful decisions on the character build, items or at least where to go and what to do in the endgame. The only thing I decided on in the 10+ hours I have played is which build to go with from an online guide. It is working well, but it has been quite a few hours of just clicking on enemies and ignoring everything else. Now I do another 6% damage to injured enemies or something? Ok… I don’t even know what my items are and pay no attention to what the uniques I have do. I have not played another ARPG this bland in gameplay. I feel like I have to be missing something.

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it doesnt …this is what is it until level 100.

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accurate to my experience as well op. i don’t know if it can be fixed either.

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Like I said I am level 42 and have played more than 2 hours so I’m out of the refund policy. I wondered at first but it was too hard to tell. For $70 this game looks pretty but wow am I falling asleep playing it.

Edit: what happens after level 100

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Then play it or don’t. Or charge back from your bank if you need the money back. Lesson learned. Don’t jump purchase every game. Plenty of info out there to make a decision before playing it. :crazy_face: :crazy_face: :crazy_face:

This is why leveling scaling is a really, really bad game design choice that should have died with Oblivion when it’s fanbase hated it. Every iteration of scaling has been horrible for gaming, it doesn’t belong in arpgs.

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The game is a bit of a flop. The dev conversation today proved how out of touch they are.

I’m probably going back to D2R and D3

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The level scaling is really a game killer. I find it interesting that they brought up the topic briefly during the stream today, but then tangented into something else and didn’t address it at all.

I mean, it’s the biggest elephant in the room. What wasn’t talked about is more illustrative than what was talked about, today. I think that’s why a lot of people are upset.

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when does the game start?

It started when you hit “play”! Crazy… I know.

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That is not really true, after 75 i only see my char get stronger and stronger both with glyph upgrades and better gear you find along the way.

You do get loads stronger, level by level at 70-75+ gear is like a never ending story because enchanting is so expensive that you probably rather would wait for a drop with the right stats, but that is also very rare :slight_smile: . Level scaling barely applies any longer other than T4 when you are 70+, so if you wanna smack beasts back home to where they belong for your friends that is very easy to do, you barely have to touch them.

Riiight?!? They barely covered it, and what part they did, didn’t address the wholistic issue. Zero sense of progression. They could have easily just broken the map up into zones by level (you can already mouseover each zone). They could have even had some zones that overlap a bit so you could do repeat playthroughs and change things up. They could have EVEN kept in some scaling, but put caps on it at different brackets. What’s crazy is the scaling even continues pretty much infinitely into end game.

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Exactly. If they’re going to have any elongated leveling experience, then there needs to be plenty of breakpoints where people feel rewarded for their progress. But instead it’s just a slow and steady decline, or a regression into mediocrity from your once powerful level 5 being. That’s just silly.

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Well, that is probably the issue. You used something else to do all the thinking and decision making for you.

I find games much more interesting when I pay attention to what items I get, adjust builds around them, etc. Sometimes that works, sometimes it does not. Sometimes I use a skill just because I LIKE how it feels (as long as it actually is also effective, even it not MOST effective).

If you read ahead, use someone elses, build, and just stay on the rails like that I can imagine it might be boring.

I am level 46 I think and in Act 2. Opening all the chests, talking to NPCs, doing all the quests. I think about items I get, dungeons I want to unlock abilities from, etc.

To me that is more fun, but to each their own. You may end up just playing through the Campaign and exploring the map then taking a break until Season 1 provides some new content (and you start a new char).

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Obviously I don’t have to continue playing. I am very skeptical of Blizzard for a while now and I read many reviews. It scored well and I thought I would end up being able to play it a fair amount. D3 had a bad release in my opinion and wasn’t very good for a few years of patches and the expansion. As you can see in the thread here, I have been asking for what I am missing. I’m trying to figure out what keeps people playing or if someone like me should just put it down and try again in 2 years.