I would like to try HC

Would you tell me why you are playing HC ?
Should i go or not yet ?

From a post I did few days ago for The same question.

  1. It makes you play better, you must do that to keep playing.
  2. Makes you feel more related to your char.
  3. It makes you take into attention more aspects of the game, not only dps dps dps…
  4. Accomplish challanges, bosses, dungeons feel more rewarding.
  5. Who really likes to play godmode?
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The most simple answer is that you will play the game as it was designed to be played.

Any idea of a class to start with ?

All except sorc I guess which is little underpowered

I’m burnt from playing standard so I have come to Hardcore to try save my self from quitting already and it has not been an enjoyable experience so far in Hardcore. Died two times before 40 once on a barb one shot from I have no idea what and another to the butcher at level 29 that also basically one shot me. The worst part is having to get all the waypoints again after creating a new character… I have wanted to play this so badly and enjoy it but its been one of the most frustrating game experiences…

I like playing hardcore because I enjoy a challenge. There is pretty much zero punishment for death in softcore, a mild inconvenience at worst, so for me that feels kinda… Pointless? Good to have an eternal character for campaign progression, practicing on bosses you’ll later face on hc, knowing what to expect outta capstones, etc., But standard doesn’t get my heartrate up the way hc does.

-You must prioritize survivability
-You must take normal mobs seriously. Quill rats, stunners, those effing poison bees, vile fiends
-You must be willing to lose it all. Stuff happens.
-You’ll get sweaty palms
-You’ll feel a joy and exultation at your accomplishments that you don’t get from sc
-As YonatanShani wrote, you gotta make a more balanced character, probably running two defensive skill slots.
-You’re always thinking about an exit strategy for any potential encounter, and thus paying more attention to the environment.
-A potion dropped. You notice you’re missing 1% of your health. Best believe you’re drinking up and grabbing that one off the ground before making tracks.

I could go on. Your heart may get broken. Your mettle will be tested. But good lord, you’ll have many times the fun you’ll have playing a game with infinite respawns.

Accept the challenge! Face the punishment. And if you die, the “Create New Character” button is always there, and leveling is a blast.

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A necromancer that focuses on its minions makes for a pretty safe foot in the hc water in my experience.

If you’re feeling scared (it’s okay, everyone is), playing on Tier 1 for those early levels isn’t a bad idea l, at least until you get all your skills and familiarize yourself with the flow of your build.

Have fun!

Same burn, but already cold on getting all teleport again. All if i can :slight_smile:

I will take few days before starting HC.

I have to think about it a little bit more, it could drive me away from D4 for ever.

But asking myself those questions already excite me. I think it the purpose :wink:

Lots of replies there. Moderators should just sticky one of these threads since it’s such a common question and also nice for the mode’s promotion.

The only thing stopping me from going HC is the severity of network issues in this game. My original intention was to get through the campaign and then create my real HC toon. But after having countless deaths due to lag/rubber banding/disconnects I decided to wait until they got the servers in order. I’m still waiting. The player base is much, much smaller now and my experience over the last week or so has been infinitely worse than launch. I think if I could just get a solid week in without severe network issues I’d feel confident enough to start in HC. I have fiber internet 1gbps, so it definitely isn’t my end.

This is definitely something you need to think about very intently. How upset will you be when the character you’ve spent 100+ hours on dies due to a lag spike and that’s just it? I don’t know about you but I’d be heartbroken if I died due to my own negligence, but at least I would be ok with that. Loosing my character due to no fault of my own? Just flat out couldn’t do it and I could see it turning me against this game permanently lol.

Be warned, if you try hc, you will never ever go back to sc.
You will learn to feel adrenaline, feel the action, get attached to your character.
You will learn to balance dps and defense to stay alive at all costs while being able to kill fast enough.
You will have to keep you cc breaker for the right moment, evaluate situations, placing yourself in the rooms etc… using escape scrolls on direct shortcut, not the wheel :rofl:

Not the same game, no turning back, make your choice :grinning: mine is done since around 20 years (d2). Before switching to hc I was finding d2 boring as hell. But after… a real pleasure.

Lvl 67 t4 on main have yet to lose a toon in d4 but it will come at one point for sure :face_holding_back_tears:, then the alts will maintain the legacy :partying_face:

Will give a shot at wow classic hc too, I have too, such memories, but in hc this time.
Despite all their flaws I love blizzard so much.
Even if the team changed etc there is always something with their game, after all they made my childhood, now I have less time to play but I still enjoy every minute.

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I guess you are right, when you clock in HC you don’t clock out, I started a HC char (Sorc 20 in T2 from start) and i went back on my barb SC and it felt souless, rush in, use as much as potion you have, die and go back in the fight. Felt pointless. No skill, no brain, it’s like playing an idle game but have to be in front of the screen

It’s matter of taste of course but for me, Diablo shouldn’t have softcore mode, it destroys the game and after ppl complain game is boring.

Softcore is not playing the game, It is stacking dps and playing without any Interest to the game mechanics while watching Netflix, raging because you don’t find anything to keep the fun.

In hc every lil things count, my so called weak race barb surviving the dungeon while my friend died because he was rogue, the fact hota make enemy’s enter in recovery because it is enough dmg in a single hit instead of multiple less strong ones, the way I have to manage every skillls, every cc breaker etc.

Ppl are spitting on this game all day long on those official forums. I am in a hc clan that is full 150 and there is at least 70 players at any hours , any day,
And ppl love the game there, they respect the dev and their game.
I love this game, the gameplay on hc is visceral and this game will become a masterpiece in time. For me , my taste, the gameplay is miles ahead of other HnS, I truely have fun killing demons, playing walking arsenal key passive barb is just insane, you have so many things to keep track of. If only they could give realistic drop rates on Uber uniques. And more stash tabs, way more :blush:
Love this game.
Sorry for the bad English :blush:

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What is shared when you die ? Renom ? Teleport ? Lilith altar ?

Lilith, gold, mats, map, stash

I play both, but I hear what you are saying. Playing SC makes me reckless as there is no penalty for dying. Why not try to the capstone at 40? Things like that. Playing HC you make decisions on “will I survive this?” more than “do I need this?”

First time Diablo player here. Have like a 72 sc necro. The campaign was awesome, but after awhile I found myself just chasing gear while blasting through things bored. Buddy and I started a couple hc toons and haven’t been on my sc yet.
Currently have a 52 rogue and have come so close to dying quite a few times. Once to the dreaded rubber band/network issue and others to me being new and cocky to hc. Lol.
Buddy died during a stronghold and left me handing the boss. Survived and lived to tell the tale.
Hc is a completely different game. I find myself stashing gear/scrolls/pots for my successor when/if I die. Knowing I most likely will. But it’s so much fun when you don’t!
Just accept the fact you will die and prepare for it. Then just enjoy the game!

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I RIPPED, an hour into Torment.
Did a helltide, got like 392 of those points.
Did a couple obol events, one of them had like a Druid lvl 92 basically my entire screen them doing a earth moving attack.

How heck druid have such a big AE and it owns everything?

Anyways, did an Obol event where I almost died, because it was a defend the area while mobs rush you, the last wave had like 9 nameds wtf, I had them CC’ed but when they had time to do 1 attack it hurt. Slaughtered them.
Felt good, next obol event, idk what happened some mob just hit even harder.

I was lvl 63 in a helltide lvl 78.
My XP was barely moving pretty sad.

Says I killed myself. I don’t have no barber I don’t have any of those things where you hurt yourself. How heck I kill myself? Barbarian?

Giving myself a few days to rethink about doing this D4 hardcore grind AGAIN.

I think the game can detect if your too high level or not.
Because the 1st torment normal dungeon, Butcher. I couldn’t take him, I’m still sacred geared, I’m already low on potions because stuff hits hard.

Then these helltide obol events, 9 nameds? wtf is going on, why is it swarm of mobs.
I kill them fast like 3-5 seconds I need 3 hits on them and they die, which is quick, but they poof with huge numbers.

It’s like lvl 63 here soloing. Lets overwhelm this dude, spawn 9 nameds 100 mobs. Never seen this many mobs in my life playing this game.

Why can’t nightmare have that many?
Why can’t normal have that many?

Why is my xp moving so slow I’m slaughtering these 78s at 63 SOLO, cmon. A dungeon and 7 helltide events, and xp slowly moving, makes no sense. Move it. These guys are 13-15 levels higher than me for crying out loud.

Soooo annoyed I got cocky and died.
This xp moves so dang slow it ticks me off. Keeps making push myself harder and harder harder. But my xp is not moving as fast I’m moving. Get cocky and die. Start over maybe.

I basically pulled in 100 mobs smashed like 90 of them but the 8-10 nameds and I can usually destroy them, but something happened where my HP just dropped quick AND my evade death potion DID NOT trigger, I just died, I’m suppose to be at 1hp and time to use the scroll but, nope, went from like 60 to 90 to 40 then died, death invasion did not trigger, pretty upset.

Hardcore is very lonely, so I might not even do it, might not even play the game again because this game is lonely, I got to torment, don’t really care for gear grind. Pretty ticked off about my death. Death evasion Potion did not trigger, saddage.

Dude, sorry to hear about the RIP. I hope you come back, even if in a few days. The exp grind is slow and lonely. I also think there is some cap on killing higher mobs.

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