So far, loving S2. The monster issue is getting forgotten souls is a huge huge deterrant to wanting to play. Okay, so In 1 Helltide, you get about 40 forgotten souls. That is 20 enchant re-rolls on ancestral gear… I just blew through 80 Forgotten Souls and did not get the roll I needed lmao. SO that is 2 hours of helltides with the downtime in between. I used to stack a ton of forgotten souls from salvaging NMD items which was great because I can multi-task, level glyphs, and farm forgotten souls, that was GREAT, I can do two very important tasks simultaineously. Now… I can basically only do one or the other. God forbid the item is a legendary, then it will also cost 3 fiend rose to enchant…
Finding the rolls you need on gear is simply TOO DIFFICULT, you are also making enchanting very expensive and time-consuming because now you have to split your mindless grinding into helltides AND nightmare dungeons for glyph levels.
SImple fixes are increasing the amount of forgotten souls you get from helltides by 300% to 500% and/or drastically increasing the amount you get from salvaging ancestral items. Otherwise, you have to spend TOO MUCH time doing helltides. I’m spending 70% of my time doing helltides now. I’m level 87 and most of my glyphs are still level 5 or lower. Why? Because forgotten souls are so difficult to get that you need to be constantly farming them to get your re-rolls.
I have literally not been able to spend any time doing nightmare dungeons because I NEEED forgotten souls to re-roll enchantments. It’s becoming a part-time job.
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System needs to give you more choices. Everything would be ok I think if enchanter gave 3 choices
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Being forced to do Helltides is so cringe when there’s nothing remotely enjoyable about them
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…further it should NEVER “pre-select” a choice/option.
I messed up a pair of gloves. Had a moment of multi-task cat, watching a podcast etc while looking for a higher roll.
My “No Change” didn’t register because I clicked by rote slightly too far to the right of the ‘area’ - why the whole LINE OF TEXT isn’t the button IRDFK.
Anyway - cost me millions and many FS to get a lesser roll of same affix.
3 would be swell.
Costs are great now. FS should be slightly tuned to be a tad more avail doing all content.
But please - don’t ever ever never set it so an option is pre-selected.
Bogus design.
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The bigger problem is that virtually every piece of gear has 20+ stat options it can roll from, so getting a) the one you want, and b) at a good roll is virtually impossible with a single helltides worth of rerolls. Amulets are even worse.
Rerolling should only cost 1 soul, and souls/fiend roses should be craftable by using up other legendary salvage mats + gold.
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Amulets are so impossible. I got a godly one and it doesnt have cooldown so I have to replace my movesped, resource cost reduc, envenom, and dmg reduc while injured amy. Needed resource cost and took me alot of rolls
I’ve always thought 4 would be optimal, but yeah…3 would rock my world at this point
Why this isn’t a thing…I just can’t imagine. Complete agree.
I’ll add…for the love of all that is (un)holy…take the affix I’m rolling away from out of the pool of potential re-rolled affixes. This just chaps my hide. I spend x-number gold and valuable mats to move off of +23.9% worthless garbage to get- of my 2 choices - 18.9% worthless garbage. I mean at least guarantee the reroll of same stat will be better. Ughhhh
Re-worked cost structure feels better but still plenty of room for improvement.
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Problem for me is helltides. I don’t want to do them at all 
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tl;dr
Go do 10 helltides, Should be set for awhile unless your really bad and can’t get both living steel and mystery chest a MINIMUM per helltide.
Also it is the fact that now it costs 2 souls vs 1, for reroll.
I cannot keep up with helltides. I have real life i need to deal with.
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Preach on m8.
My hide has been so chapped since D3 and the Mystic that I am leaning over my desk to type this very response.
I thoroughly despise getting lower value same affix rolls.
I totally understand ‘teh orangey’ of it all but c’mon.
It should be a PROGRESSIVE system.
Honestly irdc if it scales in weight as I continue to roll - just don’t give me less or equal value rolls.
Oh yea - just this session: I rolled a few items for ‘quick check could it work’ and MULTIPLE(like 4? maybe 5) items rolled EXACT Affix Value of said Affix I was rolling to either improve or remove - on the 1st or 2nd roll.
I should be a multimillionaire right now with such odds.(also I did take a few screenshots. no vid but I took them after the 1st 2 items did this. I was pretty astounded)
Anyway - Outside of design and mechanics, the Occultist has been a tad odd since release.
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Enchanter also needs to show me what rolls can roll on a line.
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Yeah I really hate we have to do helltides. Its even worse than before bcs HT is like vampiric HT just worse, much more worse considering you have to open boxes for 300 with no loot 
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Do not worry once you start farming Duriel mats you will not worry about forgotten souls EVER again. Problem is helltides are the new endgame. NMs useless which is ok they boring too but helltides worse.
Certainly, yes, agree with you. Other threads about this exist also and I hope they take note. We have other options now but I am more of a b*tch to Hell Tides than ever. I don’t like that feeling.
if I do a full hour of helltide, I get about 40 ish fs between the mobs and hitting veins/chest/ killing elites/steel/mysterious chests.
I have about that luck but I suspect, much lower. It does not quite keep up with my enchanting/re-rolling costs. If you’re the type of player that wants/enjoys trying to get every piece of gear to an optimal point, there’s usually a lot of re-rolls involved. What else is there to invest in, after all?
Yup I do always run out ratio of my mats is usually
1 fs
8 abstruse
10 coiling
15 balefuls.
LOL
I am trying to get to about 500, and 5000 veiled crystals for a rolling spree.
Don’t worry. I’m sure blizzard makes them fun after 3-10 months.
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Helltides are the the opposite of bad, they are good and we need more overworld events like this to give more meaning to it. They just need to make Helltides up all the time like Blood Harvest.
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