Wow talk about confidently wrong rofl
You know all the highest pit were done in groups? All of those top players are lower solo.
Maybe do some research before you talk smack and you might learn a thing or two on how the game works.
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Solo players are selfish and wants everything to cater to them. So yeah not surprised that those are the ones whining.
Is there any way we can FIX the lag?
D4 is already mix of mmo and arpg. Considering its been 2 seasons we dont actually have any season theme and dont think expansion will bring one, I think we are leaning towards MMO, which Im happy with being mmo player
I can tell you that if you want to do the content you do have to group. Mercs wont work.
I can also tell you the retemper scrolls will drop elsewhere. There will be cosmetics that are only in this content. I don’t know about anything else.
I don’t view anything as forced grouping unless progression is locked behind it which it isn’t.
Imo this is overblown by people but I also respect their opinions and choices.
It was marketed as mmo lite.
New things happen. Shouldn’t happen is just your opinion. It’s one piece of not required content.
Yea I don’t see it as forced either. Ive only ever stayed I don’t personally want to do grouped content and I hope there is an option to do it solo even if it’s extremely difficult to do so.
If the direction is to move towards more group content then I’ll have to decide if it’s worth continuing to play for me. But this is only a videogame sonits not the end of the world.
There is not currently an option to solo it. If there is enough backlash about it, that may change. Currently you can’t though.
Which can be adapted so it can be soloed
There is no reason to keep that content away from solo players, specially when its the main end game content added by a PAID EXPANSION
I dont know why some people refuse the idea to make it soloable, its not like we are asking for groups to not be able to di it
Why is it so important for some people to have exclusive content that others cant do?
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but you can do it. you choose not to. they are even adding a party finder to make it easier to do it. but again you are choosing not to. it has nothing to do with “cant”
You cant if you decide to play ssf (and people have been asking for that to be an official option for some time)
I understand that you cant see the problem, but that doesnt mean it doesnt exists
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there is no ssf. if you choose to play the game in that style, that is still a choice. you are choosing not to participate in a part of the game because it is more important to you to pretend other people dont exist. nothing is preventing you from participating in the activity except your own choices
It could be probably adapted to be soloed but it would be watered down and defeat the purpose of the content. Being watered down would make it more efficient and thats what everybody would do.
The reason is that they wanted to make some content designed for co-op type play and I am glad to have it. As are many others glad to have it. Its not just the main end game content. There is also a main end game solo content as well. Undercity is solo end game content. There is also still hordes and pits and tormented bosses.
I dont know what you are trying to imply about it being a “paid expansion.” Of course the expansion costs money. Anyone thinking an expansion would be free was delusional.
Because its designed for co-op play and has mechanics on bosses designed for co-op play and coordination. To make that solo friendly would be to water it down and remove those types of mechanics. That would make it far easier to solo than it would be to group. Therefor it would be far better to just solo it than it would be to group.
Because it adds a fun element that you could not get in solo content that people that enjoy grouping can do. There is another dimension they can add to boss encounters that you simply cant add to solo content. It requires coordination that you could never achieve solo.
The more I am reading about citadel the more I am not liking it. ITs going to have MMO sort of boss fights with items or buffs you have to use right to reflect boss attacks and it cycles from player to player. Also looks like its going to have cooperative puzzles and traps. This is looking like an absolute nightmare to play. Thumbs down right now from me. 
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and I have a different opinion. Thats what makes grouping fun… having encounters where people are individually responsible to defeat the encounter. Right now people can just spam mindlessly for 10 seconds until boss is dead. In dungeons everyone just takes their own path and mindlessly blazes through the mobs.
Its about time they made some encounters that require some coordinated efforts. Hell, I wish some solo stuff had some actual mechanics to them that you had to do. Lillith is about the only fight that you cant just stand in one spot and nuke down.
Those are MMO elements though. I dont think they belong in diablo. Boss fights can have stages and stuff you have to dodge and such but using item at the right time? Whole party has to time stuff and do it right? This is WoW raid type stuff. These are different players that like this. This is a war of gametypes. Its not going to work just like traps in vaults.
Diablo just going to slowly morph into an MMO now??? Hope not.
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Was wondering on what pay i should wait to buy the expansion. after reading this Forced group BS announcement, , i changed my mind and will wait for POE2
youre not the only one that wont pay for this . i wont either. all this time i was waiting for this specific moment saying to my self " PLZ… let this NOT be forced group"
today i just learned it is… so, screw all this. not a penny from me and i pray diablo 5 will have an ENTIRE new dev team.
for SOLO players, just learning now every endgame things is locked behind grouping is a big Red X for me.
every EVERY single time i tried to group in this game have been the worst experience.
good bye !
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you are the problem…
There is definitely a big outcry on this. I can see where players are coming from. They need to address this quickly before it gets out of control. Lots of players dont want this.
I think the solution they might have to do is have a solo version and a group version. The solo version awards much less rewards but at least the option is there for solo players to progress.