Every class has an S tier build except SORC

Sorc is so bad they dont even have an A tier spec. Their best build is a full 2 tiers worse than all the other classes

Heres an update via maxroll

“Moved all Sorcerer builds down a Tier or two.

  • Ice Shards & Arc Lash are coming down two Tiers to B Tier, Ice shards is the most powerful Sorcerer Build but it still struggles in higher tier NM pushes.
  • Ball Lightning has stayed still in B Tier since it’s showing more promise than we anticipated.
  • Firewall is also going down two Tiers and finds itself in C Tier now, like Ice Shards and Arch Lash it’s just really not able to be competitive once the Tiers really go up and has always been a bit behinds those other builds.
  • Chain Lightning and Fireball aren’t showing promise here at all and find themselves in D and F Tier respectively.”

When will sorc get some love. Its unplayable at this point. Sorc cant push late game dungeons at ALL. Heck 90% of sorcs cant even kill the butcher…… at any level. That goes to show you how weak this class is

Honestly its not a simple fix. The class needs a full blown overhaul.
Another weapon item slot and a third enchantment slot would prob make it so Sorc can hang with, but still be worse, than the other classes
What was blizzard thinking. Do they not have internal play testing??

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Sorc isn’t weak they just don’t have armor. That is literally their only problem.

They have plenty of damage.

Yes you can easily kill butcher on a sorc. He can’t even break your defenses if same level or even a few levels higher.

Literally the only issue is armor.

When will you people realize this. It’s not rocket science.

Every class with armor is moving up the rankings. It’s not a coincidence.

Stop asking for buffs to damage when that isn’t the problem.

No amount of damage will stop you being 1 shot from off screen if you don’t see the archer.

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They also have very limited healing and sustain options, low utility options, and too many poor damage skills leading the class heavily towards one spec. This has meant all the creativity the class should have via the enchantment system is wasted potential.

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No amount of healing will stop you being 1 shot.

They have plenty of defensives. They have the most defensives of any class.

The problem is ARMOR. Armor is the best defensive stat in the entire game. If you don’t have it your class sucks.

This is the problem.

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Rogues have low armor and still have S tier builds and confirmed level 100 lilith kills

Sorc has very average damage if they are maxed out.
Cant say they have high damage because that would straight up be a lie compared to the other classes. In general its low to average damage but by far the worst survivability in the game.
There needs to be tradeoffs. If they are meant to be glass canons then they should have by far the highest dps in the game and the other classes shouldnt be in the same realm of damage
But we know this is far from true

Just overall a weak class in all aspects
Take a look at the sorc forum and compare to all the other forums

Its very clear that sorc is stuggling

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They won’t get to much higher dungeons than sorc can.

Sorcs can do like T70 to T75.

Rogues will cap out there as well.

It is because of armor.

It’s not struggling. It’s one of the best classes for same level content or low tier nightmare.

It just can’t push.

You are struggling on sorc.

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sorc always struggle with damage and sustainability, its just not a viable class late game. I dont even know why they nerf hydra in beta, its not even good in late game even if they did not nerf its proc rate or damage vs the current meta of barb/druid/rouge end game.

in d2 they r the top dps class with the less life, in d4 she is literally good for nothing no dps and no survivability in late game. who ever design this class need to do a complete make over. I only play sorc for nostalgia reason from d2, it was just soo bad in d4 its unbearable. come season I will just take on my boobarian or druid and never have to deal with the stupid sorc mechanic of vulnerable damage only trigger every 13 second with frost nova finished with its cool down.

this class just not viable in its current state, and so is the necro mobility wise. they need to give them huge buff in every department next patch, or every one will just play easy mode druid or barb comes season time.

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that’s the problem with doing well in a Blizzard beta, you get nerf into oblivion for release.

The reality is that all classes are having the exact same issue we had in beta: skills and legendaries are unbalanced.

At low level, druid and barbarian did very bad because most of their power comes from legendaries. At high lvl, they do much better simply because those same legendaries have much better scaling.

Sorc and Necro are the opposite; doing well early level due to little reliance on legendaries, but scaling like garbage.

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No they don’t. It’s a you problem.

Sorcs can clear same level content faster than almost any class. I’ve seen a sorc facetank a butcher 10 levels higher that was enraged and doing 2x damage to shields.

He face tanked it.

Sorc is fine. You just can’t push with a sorc.

The only class that can push really is barb, because of armor.

Get a clue please.

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Its not a “you” problem when 99% of sorcs are complaining about their class

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99% of sorcs are bad.

They play their class wrong.

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Great well maxroll are the master and play all the classes

They are better than you…

They say sorc is a full 2 tiers worse than the other classes…
And i respect their word more than I’ll ever respect yours

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I laugh when u said that, u haven’t a clue where sorc struggle. show me a video of a sorc clear a lvl 50 rift vs a barbarian ww with similar gear and can clear it faster. u cant, because of how sorc apply vulnerable damage mechanic is lock behind frost nova that has 20 second cooldown. while barb will auto apply it as he ww. the only clueless person here is not me, its some one who dont play a sorc and dont understand why they sucks. and that person isn’t me.

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Firewall sorc is literally in S-Tier for speed farming. So is ice shards and arc lash.

Lol

Basically what I’ve been telling you.

They can’t push to higher nightmare dungeons. Literally their only issue.

You are bad.

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I always found sorc to be more of a support class for coop than solo class.
Sorc works exceptionally well when in a team that can hold agro like Rogue or Necro or Druid

watches barb cry in the corner

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Its because SORC was S tier, until it became realized that only classes with near permanant unbreakable states would be S tier due to the insane CC chaining from mobs, and was moved down. Its still powerful up until later levels where scaling wrecks everything.

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So in other words sorc is not fine.

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The only change that will help this is fixing armor.

Which is what I said.

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Resistance is a lie, I have 1k int and lots of resist in my board, but I can still get oneshot by a fireball on 60+ nightmare dungeons.

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Can confirm: Face tanked butcher with my Sorc. No I’m not using an arguably “popular” main skill either.

The legos are all there: The people crying just haven’t figured out how to glue them together (or more likely, haven’t had their favorite ad-tube star spoon-feed a build to them).

glhf

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