Community Vote on if S4 is delayed. ⏲

So with what I am hearing on grapevine with current PTR, I think there is a huge chance that S4 is going to be delayed again past may 14. (Edit)

What does the community think here?

You can vote in this thread. Lets see if we get it right.

Planned S4 release date → May 14 2024.

Vote Total: 31.

Votes On Time: 24 (DarthTalon, MFPF, OliveShark, Starless, Iggi, Ieusebi, Indian, Andarius, Clevo89, Rishon, RavageDionne, evok, Marillion, Carnivore, thaDarkness, muawarrior, Saiko, righthere, MarQuiSe, GrimReaper, Park, Abella, Myrradin, Azdaar, )

Votes Delayed: 7 (Urza, Gibs, Vlad, Strider, Kirasin, Plusch, luckY)

Current consensus: 77% chance On time. PPL are Overwhelmingly voting on time.

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Does S4 probably need to be delayed = YES

How long, ‘my guess’ = Start of June

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Why would we think its going to be delayed? They just need to prioritize what are top changes that can be fixed, tested and deployed by season start. Rest can be postponed to inseason patch.

Dont need perfection out of the gate. Seeking perfection will lend to worse results than delayed deployment

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My thinking after diving into the PTR is as follows:

  • All core systems have been impacted or overhauled
  • Game balance needs serious work across all elements
  • Game pacing and rewards need work
  • Game scaling needs work
  • Significant number of new bugs to contend with
  • New systems at least need some tweaking
  • Developers will want to show they have taken onboard community feedback - that means more changes
  • Season 4 mechanic adds an unknown number of complexities and balance questions, on top of everything else
  • People coming back won’t last long if the game doesn’t feel good and the game feels all out of sync, at least on the PTR IMO.

All these reasons make me feel Blizzard might, or IMO should delay a little longer.

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You mean, delay again?

I don’t think so. I didn’t see any changes that the community requested that were extremely difficult to make.

I vote On time.

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I agree with this. I enjoyed the PTR a lot. I don’t expect perfection. Even if it went in exactly as it is on the PTR I would be fine with it. I expect they will do some tuning between now and mid May though.

They can also do tuning in a mid season patch and in season 5 and so on. It doesn’t have to be 100% complete at the start of season 4. It’s an evolving game.

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I feel ya that works need to be done but the longer the delay, the longer people move to other games.

S3 is done. There is no value to continue to play since all equipment is mostly worthless come s4 start

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Not going to happen as Elden Ring DLC launch in June. All major game release include paid battlepass season content will try to avoid clash with Elden Ring launch date to maximize player purchase.

Votes On Time: → me

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Blizzard doesn’t even avoid clashing with their own games.

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Blizzard dont have any popular game other than Diablo. It is not consider clashing as all these games give income to the same company.

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Based upon their campire chat, I dont think it’s gonna be delayed at all.

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Tl:Dr - I vote for on time. Read the rest at your leisure or not at all if you prefer.

Let’s go with some objectivity and hypotheticals.

PTR just stopped Tuesday Morning. They’ve been reading over feedback the entire week we’ve been playing along with monitoring data. I would say the majority of the main issues people had during the PTR were made public before the weekend even hit. Not to mention their own list of known issues that was in the PTR forum sticky, there was in fact some overlap.

So give another week for them to consolidate all the data, lay it out on the table, have a big meeting and hash out some details. So by roughly mid-next week they’ll probably get started on some of the bigger changes. I imagine they’re already working on bugs and known issues right now. Obviously they’re not sitting around for this huge report of data and feedback to come in, they’re actively working.

Ignoring the bugs and obvious issues Blizzard has noted themselves, we can conclude the following:

  • Numbers need to be changed
  • Interactions of items and skills need to be changed
  • Systems may need to be tweaked
  • UI, tooltips, and other visuals need to be changed

Making a big assumption here, but I would venture a guess the numbers, tooltips, and visuals would be fairly easy to manage and are probably being worked on as we speak. I would also take a guess that UI changes and functionality, interactions of items and skills, and system tweaks would take considerably more time.

There’s hundreds of suggestion posts in the PTR and honestly it’s great to see. I’d say the majority actually like the changes being made, we just need some obvious tweaks. So once they hash out the details they can start to get to work on our feedback.

So you figure roughly a month to get everything done. Is it possible? I think so personally. They’ve come this far with a basic prototype that’s been in the works for about over 6 months now.

Do I expect S4 to be bug free on launch? Not by a long shot, but I’m not so petty to think they wouldn’t have made any improvements by then.

I do expect it to be in a working state though for the systems they are introducing. Bugs and balancing can come later in my opinion, as long as the new systems work as close to flawlessly as they can I’m good.

I will put my vote to on time, but I wouldn’t have any issues if they decided they needed more time to work on it either. I’ll be disappointed sure, but I would rather they take the time they need to fix things than rush it out the door.

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It’s allready delayed to May 14.

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Yes i mean delayed again. Please make yur vote clear in message. I dont want to infer if u wanted to vote or how.

I vote for On Time. I don’t think there’s any way they are delaying it again, given that the feedback on the PTR has been overwhelmingly positive.

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This is stupid and pointles, but if you want to play Mr. Important, than:

No delay.

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Devs are afraid of any nerf or bug fix mid-season. Fragile hearts of gamers.

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I don’t know that they can afford to let S3 drag on any longer without losing too much player faith. You make people wait another month(or more) they might get fed up, log off and not come back.

An unpolished S4 start may be the best thing right now. Are you still gonna be logging on consistently until mid may? Are you gonna wait till S4 release day to log back in? If it gets delayed another month what will you do?

so, since the s4 release date is delayed… did blizzard lose your faith now?

long story short. no, they didnt. these posts just come up because people are inpatient and want to try to be a karen.

dont get me wrong, id love if s4 started tomorrow, but im also glad they are taking their time ^^

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I avoided the PTR intentionally mainly because I wanted a few surprises and avoid any “burn out”.

I want S4 to come out on time. I think they owe us this so if they have to work around the clock so be it.

I do anticipate there may be a few hotfixes required and I’d be OK with that.

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