D4 most successful Seasons were the casual oriented nes (S2, S4 and S5)
D4 failed Seasons where when they tried to please the hardcore players (S1, S3 and S6)
Bliizard needs to stop listening to Streamers and hardcore players and develop the game for their community. Then we would have a better game
There is room in the gaming industry for 2 ARPG, one more hardcore oriented, nand one more casual oriented, and many people actually playing both
The problem with D4 is also the lack of consistency, with Blizzard constantly changing their goals
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As a casual player, if I see a game that I canāt complete/win because Iām casual, I just donāt play it.
PoE has TOO much content for a casual player and makes zero effort to make it more friendly for new players. POE2 fixes this a bit, but seeing the passive tree from minute 1 is still too overwhelming.
The HC community is the most dedicated, but it is also the smallest, so: you can have a no-casual arpg, but not JUST a no-casual arpg.
The fact that GGG is trying to casualize POE2 shows that the gaming industry is moving towards the casual playerbase, and for a good reason
Streamers and hardcore players are fine for marketing, but the vast majority of players are not part of those groups
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D4 is the product of years and years of dullness, staleness, and just money grabing. At this point I am curious even if they still have more than 50 alive people and not just AI generated contentā¦
Probably at Blizzard the few dried up people that still remained are coming to work daily and asking chat gpt : āHey chat gpt, what color should we add to diablo 4 on to what mechanic that you previously designedā ā¦ āAlso while you are out there , can you calculate how much between 5% and 10% should we buff sorceress fireball to make it work so that we can have 1 more build that can be built, out of the 3 we have ?ā
TRUE.
If PoE can create a casual community before Diablo 4 becomes as big as POE, then POE will win āthe warā.
If not, Diablo 4 will eat POE.
You can just play standard and play casual until you learn the game.I agree it is a mind**** when you first start playing.
Iām not willing to spend 1000 hours of gaming just to learn how to playā¦
Iāll try PoE2, but donāt ask me to āworkā before having fun.
Games should be fun from the first minute.
You will like it or you wonāt.If itās not for you there are other games. Itās free to start.
This depends, response times slow as you age. You canāt fight this. Yes you may have had godlike reflexes from when you were a teen and be much faster than other adults your age. But there is some adderall filled 12 year old out there that is faster than you are today.
And when do you estimate that diablo 4 becomes as big as PoE ?
Letās assume GGG doesnāt develop anything to give D4 the chance to become as big as PoE , when will that happen considering how Blizzard is currently pushing contentā¦Next expansion as everyone said (no game was good until first 375 expansions), by the end of expansion number 51 ? By the end of time itself ?
Diablo 3 was supposed to grow and look how that turned out to beā¦Diablo 4 promises the same thing and for the past year + an expansion they delivered color pallets and refurbished mechanics.
Ya i hate getting ganked by 12yr olds in first person shooters lol. Iām way to old.
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People calling fun, pressing one button and destroying the whole map for the sake of getting nothing, and pushing pits for the same of literally nothing makes me giggle ā¦ While the same people telling you āyou cannot be full 3GA in the first week, give the game timeā makes me giggle even more.
They donāt want to give themselves time to learn a new game but literally waste their time scouting through the garbage in the game they are already playing for no reason :))))
If yaāll wanna see this game grow and actually turn into what its name deserves: stop logging in.
Donāt play the next season. Donāt talk about the game. Donāt come here to give QoL ideas. Stop playing this game until they actually work things out.
The devs of D4 are really good. It is the decisions coming from above that are holding the good work make its way. How are devs going to fix something if the game is still making money and players keep logging in? They think that everything is cool because numbers have been supporting that idea.
Letās hope that the competitor is able to retain players even by the time S7 and even S8 release. Maybe that way we can have a good S10.
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I donāt knowā¦ when do you think POE will become casual friendly? And consider that they will continue creating content, making the game even more complex.
Itās a challenge for bothā¦ and neither may succeedā¦ perhaps POE3 and Diablo5 are the real competitors in this race.
Nowā¦ the biggest difference is that, Diablo 4 has too little complexity and will become more complex over time while POE has too much and will become even more complex over timeā¦ If Diablo 4 doesnāt give up halfway like Diablo 3, Diablo 4 has the advantage in the race.
I did that ,first season in 4 monthsā¦it didnāt work lol
Gotta be āāmassiveāā. Something their radar actually gets. And I am talking about 3 seasons because once that happens they will probably just bring more damage to the table, as if it was the main problem at all.
Poe might wake them up if GGG can make it user friendly for more people. I seriously doubt it though. Poe is not for most people, the time sink is huge. League will take 2 months for sure.I believe the story line alone is 15-20hrs,and you have to do it every league,they might change that but not sure.
If PoE 2 doesnāt do it for me I will go BG3 mods then.
I am not going through another season thatās exactly like every season, where the only new thing, is more damage.
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Ya Bg3 you canāt go wrong,500hrs in that game and have not done a full play through. I just keep trying mods and never seem to get there lol. I did buy it early releaseā¦3 yrs beta,itemization in that game is nutsā¦so much gear to play with.
Boy are you gonna be in for a surprise. Most people will be playing leagues because league specific mechanics, loot, and battlepass.