Because you can actually look at the things I’m saying and verify that the in game statistics measure up to what I’m saying?
Where as you’re saying “it’s underperforming” i’m actually giving you guidelines on output. I even opted for the comfort enhancement on the necklace instead of the 9stacks up to 50% damage necklace just so I didnt have to worry ever about dipping below 90% health.
This gear set isnt optimized whatsoever, and I mean not even close, and it’s already putting out damage numbers comparable to “inflated” numbers people have posted on the forums.
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You need earthern bulwark with pulv as earth and the legendary affix for bulwark which increases its duration and resource amount. and a regen piece on your armor and you will never drop below 90% hp.
Also pulverize/landslide/lightning strike is a much better output than doing maul and pulv only.
Don’t go full bear until you can reach your bottom passives.
Saying you need several legendaries to make it at least somehow working is already enough proof that the class is weak in the early game.
You can rush any dungeon with any other class in blue gear without issues.
But not druid.
“Get this power, and this power, put it there in that item and there in the second item, and then if you use this skill and this skill, it is great!”
Beta has 10x the drop rate retail will have.
You had your time to farm items and legendaries and wow, it somehow works.
Now do me a druid dungeon run in full blues and we can talk further.
All you did was actually support my claim that druid is weak.
Well players like him, don’t get that this build can be good when equip 10 legendaries, which in beta there is a 300% increased drop rate, and in live we won’t even find half of these legendaries.
When see Necro clear everything with less effort, gear, time etc. when see 90% of the feedback saying that Druid werebear is weak, is slow etc.
search about the beta tier list and you will see Druid being at the bottom in every aspect like dmg, both single and aoe, survability etc.
I don’t get why some players manage to fully equip a class with legendaries and make kills and find the class ok when all other classes do the same with way less effort and gear. As I said, they don’t get that these legendaries, most likely won’t be found in live cause of the totally different drop rates. Then they will come and say that this class feels weak and they will switch to Barb or Necro for example. LoL
First of all, strawman, I’m not saying you need legendaries to make it work.
It works out the gate because of the interraction between abilities.
What I’m saying is, not only does it work out the gate, it scales as hard, if not harder than barbarians with gear. I negated over 90% of the content in this difficulty just by raw face tanking stuff other classes can’t take one to two hits and still put out massive damage.
You guys are misinformed, it’s really as simple as that. You need to learn the actual skill set before saying druid is bad.
Like I said, you can believe it or not. It wont stop me from laughing to the bank while people cry that druid is “bad” and I fly under the radar with an incredibly sleeper class.
It doesn’t work out of gate without items.
Been there, tried it.
He may scale best out of all 5 classes and be end game monster.
Doesnt change the fact early game is a pain.
Yes, we all are misinformed, all the majority of people that feels he is weak, played him, tried him out, still came to the conclusion he needs help in early game, and then there is you, telling that everyone else is just misinformed. Cool man.
Yes. But we are talking early game, not end game.
If early game is bad, people will roll something else.
I don’t get why is it such an issue to openly talk about that EARLY GAME druid is weak compared to other 4 classes and buff him or somehow change him.
Thats what beta is for.
We can comment on what we played and tested up to level 25.
Its irrelevant what will be on lvl 100 as you cannot try it out.
You realize all the legendaries we get, their affixes are actually sourced out of dungeons you can unlock for your codex right?
There were 0 legendary affixes that were unlockable in this beta that can’t be unlocked and placed on gear on the occultist on release.
This is what I mean, you guys literally don’t know what you’re talking about. A pinch of research would have you realize “holy crap, unless they change something, this is going to be live and accessible to me to get via the codex system.”
Like, this is what I’m talking about. These forums are rife with misinformation and lazy assumptions.
i had no problem killing anything leveling up. it wasn’t until i was 25 that i died. nilcar.
As for some overtuned builds they could be tuned down. I enjoy werewolf so i play it. if i didn’t i wouldn’t. i don’t decide what i will play based on what is most likely to be nerfed
Hmm, well, that’s how it seemed to work in Diablo III. I played a wizard in early game and it was op. Then, at end game it was op. So, erm, is it wrong to think that will happen again with sorcerer?
You find it Op now as a sleepers build while the majority finds it weak compared with other classes and most gear depending. Blizzard takes the info and the feedback from us and we have to wait their move now. We agree to disagree about werebear. If it stays as it is, I will just go werewolf and GG. Sadly can’t confirm about what you said about affixes cause I found them and didn’t get them from completing a dungeon and what it requires to be viable according to the videos I saw, to a pure werebear build can’t be obtained from just completing a dungeon. Sadly I didn’t find them nor I just took them from completing a dungeon.
As I said we agree to disagree, is point to keep chatting the same thing over and over again. We will have to wait blizzard’s move.
Nothing proves my point better than you posting a video of a guy with full rare upgraded gear and several legendaries equipped, and other legendaries prepared in inventory.
Do you even see what you posting? This isn’t a damn pure werebear build, but a hybrid build. You literally have one skill from everything.
I personally speak for a pure werebear build. And all my info I saw and played is only for a pure werebear build which sucks, or preferably it’s more gear depending than any other class. Want to check tier lists etc, are out there, check them and see that Druid esp melee is just at the bottom in everything. YOU find it ok, we don’t. Is what it is.
bruh, druid is garbo.
go watch some videos and compare them.
first, go watch some druid videos, notice how long it takes to clear trash + an elite, then watch a necromancer or a sorcerer do the same.
necro and sorc will literally spend seconds killing what takes the druid several minutes to kill.
For Legos I was using the dmg reduction on hit, armor gain on hit, shield on elite dmg , attack speed Lego, cc dmg lego, additional dmg on resource, and just before I stopped I got the pulverize Lego which turns pulverize into a earth skill and does 2 seconds earthquake.(actually a cool effect one)
That last one helped with dmg but resource gain was terrible you literally have to rely on the 10 sec overpower buff paired with the earth dmg passives when you are fortified to do dmg. I’m hoping resource cost reduction really comes into play because being able to pulverize only twice was brutal when you don’t have over power.
Also I wish they just made the Ww howl for healing on bear form then did a nodes for fortify or dmg reduction and resource gain for bear.
Anyone else notice the animation locks on bear shout and trample or ww howl. I wish it was able to be canceled by casting something else
Also I don’t like how grizzly rage removes non bear skills from your bar.
Also the werewolf ultimate is just a janky seven sided strike.
Hopefully the upcoming developer talk gives more information on everything because right now I’m definitely not preordering. Too many unknowns with the game right now.
Side note these character models in this game for human form on Druid. Not a fan.
Cause early game is going to be a tiny sliver of your time played on a character, if you wanna reroll early cause something feels bad god bless but then don’t come crying if the script flips at level cap
lacerate is great. it damages, heals and grants immunity. I will often save that to ignore something i would need to move out of. like a world boss telegraphed attack.
