Did we forget about PvP anyone? I see almost nobody talking about PVP. I for one am really curious how this is gonna affect PvP.
Either blizz reworks many of these legendary powers with the ALREADY big damage percentage increases which people are talking about from a poor loot design mechanic perspective.
But what about from the PVP perspective? Cuz while people have an issue with this for the normal game, has anyone thought of how bad this will make PVP?
Honestly I could see blizzard disabling PVP for the launch of the game because of the legendary powers that give so much percentage increases until they sort it out. I really hope they look at these legendary damage numbers and give em more thought.
I really want this game to be good. I love the world, visuals, dark vibe, combat etc but if we are gonna get Diablo 3 style damage I honestly can’t see this working out… especially in PvP.
in the beta, equipment or skills, one of the two idr which, said that they reduced your power by 93% or something similar for PVP
player get 93% dmg reduce for PvP
that’s interesting… I wonder how they decided on 93% lol such a random number…
I had a problem in closed beta finding anyone to pvp with, it was dead quiet in that zone anytime I breezed through it. So sadly cant tell you how it is. Its big enough and looks good though! 
Feels like the diminished buff to dps arenas had by the looks of things, what did they call that system? resilience or some crap!
in d2 you did ~1/6 in pvp some said 17%
now its gonna be 7% i guess
It will works exactly like in d3 where you have these legendary powers and skill modifications. Nobody serious will do pvp because it will be horribly balanced. Something like that is impossible to balance.
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Barb did crit with 370 000 in beta, 7% is 25000 damage. Great pvp lol. I dont think chars will have 25000 life.
Even with 95% dmg reduce after that, it will be like 1250 dmg. And thats lvl 25 only.
idk how things like armor/resists/additional DR come into play in that situation. i guess we’ll see
Read above, i edited my post.
well i think 93% reduce for all source of raw dmg then DR, dodge, armor, resist, absorb etc will kick in for the last result
We saw only lvl 25 but even from that is clear that low lvl pvp is dead. You cant possible survive so massive hits we saw.
And later? Based on beta I think its safe to say we will see dmg numbers in milions or even bilions again. So how much dmg reduction will you need then to survive single crit hit? 99,99%?
This all is issue of itemization in game.
In d2 some builds could do very strong hits also but you had absorbs absorbing dmg(we might see that also in d4 in late game), defense actualy fully protected against hits and there was shield able to block up to 75% of melee /range hits. This way of negating dmg is not present in d4 with exception of necro. Which is super wierd. Not only necro will have massive meat shield in army but also as only one will be able to block hits with shield?
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who cares abt pvp in this kind of game? Go Play dota :D.
Who do you think lol? Pvp players do. PvP in diablo was fun until d3 came and killed it 
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even in systems where they care and build for it…there are issues.
one shots on 2 other blizzard games happen. with actually meant for pvp gear.
so even if they put in versatility/resilience from those games…yeah…“fun” times may happen.
maybe they’ll be adjusted a bit 
some numbers make no sense rn. google “11m whirlwind barb hit” for example.
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Take the biggest hit i saw in the beta, 369k, and reduce by 93%
25,830 hit in pvp at level 25.
Nice.
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In d2 serious pvp has few rules and with that one hits basicly doesnt happen. But these rules are quite easy to follow. It will be impossible to make simple rules for d4. I dont think there even will be place for duels. Just one big open pvp zone with people griefing nonstop.
