As someone who has spent countless hours in Helltide this season, Blizzard, I can tell you… we DON’T have too many Baneful Hearts.
If anything, we don’t have enough.
There are a few issues…
I don’t think some/most of the playerbase is even aware that they receive more rewards for donating a heart.
It’s not hard to go to the summoning area and see this. You can have 4-5 players standing around and nobody wants to donate a heart. Everyone either has no hearts, or they just want to leech xp… and 1 person either has to donate 2 or 3 hearts to get it going. People ALREADY don’t donate the hearts required a lot of the time. Taking a large chunk of Baneful Hearts away from players who do, will make this issue much worse and will create tension between players at the alter, where many players just want to leech.
People better start contributing or nobody getting loot.
i mean, you receive a buff that tells a player exactly that.
its been a week since i played myself, but usually i put in a heart, and the rest follows up.
of course you got people leeching xp, and i mean, thats fine.
helltides are always up, just put in a heart, and if noone follows up, use another two and leave the spot and mind your own farming.
The point is… there’s no reason to nerf baneful hearts. What’s the benefit?
They just DON’T want people doing Blood Maiden?
I already find the area contentious with most players just standing around doing nothing most of the time. This change only makes it worse unless you go in with a premade group.
I have almost 300. I did enough helltides to get the rep on two characters and not much more. Some people have close to 1000.
good question, i mean, after all its a resource, and those are supposed to be limited. eventually they try to enhance group play in helltides?
wut really? im super broke on those as well ^^
If you run with the mind cage and pop caches, youll have a surplus of hearts most of the time, i dont really mind the people leeching, granted that most of time i pop one see if anyone contributes and go on my own way if there are none, youll keep the buff till you quit the game or are present in the bloodmaiden kill.
Anyone with that many just isn’t doing Blood Maiden, or you, or whoever you know that has that many… are just people that leech and stand around and do nothing.
Let’s just say conservatively, I do 30 Blood Maidens over the course of an hour… and everyone is being normal, and I only donate 1 Heart per summon…
I’ve just spent 30 hearts over the course of a Helltide… i’m not getting that many hearts back by running around and opening chests at the end.
You’re already running at a deficit, and that’s being conservative with the Maiden kills and only donating 1 heart per kill.
What happens when people are more frugal with their hearts and leech more?
So because some degen plays helltides 24/7 we should all be punished?
Can’t agree more here, this was a dumb change
Usually i only do maiden when i have at least 30 hearts.
And sometimes, you really find ppl who share in contributing the fee for maiden.
Than it is fun and you can get some nice lootz.
But most of the time there are just some random leechers running to the camp and do not pay even 1 heart every 3 turns. just stand and wait.
Imho hearts are really hard to get. after 3 tides you can do 10 maidens maybe. thats not much.
To curve it, it should affect the drops from the leeches, that way everyone is going to run to the altar to secure their share of the loot. But i dont get the idea of being stingy, if you burn 100 hearts to run 30 maidens, thats your decision. You have 100 hearts to burn.
Usually i run around chasing hellspires to raise my bar to frenzy, i like more kill hellbornes then open watever cache is nearby.
When i run out of cinders i just go to the maiden and burn hearts.
There is no way somebody is running out of hearts unless they’re running Helltide almost exclusively and just sitting at the ritual the entire time, paying for all 3 solo on repeat. Not that I doubt people do this, but I’m not sure that’s a problem for anybody but that particular set of players. Nothing wrong with the faintest hint of scarcity. 
How do you think people been farming GA items? Spamming maiden and if your weren’t you been missing out.
Then that balance needs to change. The answer surely isn’t to just make everybody do the same thing endlessly until their eyes bleed.
I totally agree. No Loot or Experience.
Alter is a ghost town until you put 3 hearts in, then all the crack heads pop out of the bushes “hey got any loot, any experience?” When it’s over they all disperse, no one putting anything back in. Then you load it back up, and same people every time come back.
The afk Necro’s are/were the worst offenders. Just park them there, and go on about real life.
Also, people need to keep in mind that the bottleneck to a lot of things this season is Angelbreath. Lots of people used the helltide glitch to get a lot of it.
That won’t be around next season. And if people can’t run Blood Maidens… take a wild guess what the number 1 complaint will be.
Will it be farmable from the new chests in the Hell area… maybe?
heck i helltided 98% of my play time with 20 alts getting to iron wolf rank 18 for making ubers i only have 273 hearts remaining
I do about 10 maidens and then I go open all the chests and complete the whispers. So I usually end up breaking even or gaining a few hearts. I think the idea is helltides is supposed to be as one event and not just spamming blood maidens for an hour. So by reducing the hearts it’s encouraging people to actually participate in the whole event.
I don’t leech infact often I’m the only one there capable of actually killing them so if anything people are leeching from me.
They want you to play it “their way”.