Why Gem should be stackable, its potential as a currency

Diablo II: Resurrected General Discussion
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  1. The value and drop rate are appropriate compared to past currencies such as runes and jordan rings.

Jordan and Gulun, which were in-game currencies in the past, had a very low drop rate compared to their value.

It was very difficult for beginners to obtain, and it was not worth much if they tried.

The minimum unit of a transaction that has to come out all week long?

So, after splitting, fg replaced them.

However, gems have a decent drop rate for a decent value.

  1. Intuitive compared to past currencies

Runes are too complicated. If you split a gul rune, what rune is it, and if you split it, what rune is it?

this is very confusing.

So the real currency was intuitive and simple with gold, silver, and copper, and even that was replaced with just numbers.

Gems are damn easy. If you put the same things together, they are the same gem at the top. Easier than gold and silver.

  1. Even beginners can get it and the method is simple

Currency should be highly accessible, but if only people who know how to get it (like fg) what kind of currency is it?

Perfect gems can be made by picking up from Normal Act1 Den of Evil, even if you are a beginner learning how to move.

  1. Even beginners can get the fun of farming

D2 is a game with the worst drop rate. If you know that all the items you pick up are waste paper, you will naturally lose your motivation.

It’s fun to have something meaningful in your actions.

If the perfect gem becomes currency, it can definitely satisfy that part.

The lowest level gems found in normal eventually become currency, and this is certainly meaningful.

  1. However, gems were of low value and were difficult to trade without stacking.

Even if you fill your inventory with gems, the efficiency is too low to just buy an introductory item.

But what if there are gems that can be stacked? What if you could move 100 pepert gems with one click?

  1. How is the Perfect Gem value guaranteed and maintained?

However, perfect gems are rarely used and can cause inflation.

The solution may be simple. Let the Perfect Gem be used to summon Uber Dia.

This has three advantages.

First, You can give a perfect gem a value and defend its value.

Second, there is no Jordan copy now, so it is very difficult to summon an Uber with Jordan with a low drop rate. That part can be solved by summoning Uber with the perfect gem.

Third, it is possible for Blizzard to control the amount of perfect gems.

Money must have an issuer and be recoverable.

You can reduce the issuance of perfect gems by lowering the drop rate, but perfect gems that have already been spread in the market can only be recovered as cubing.

However, Blizzard cannot control the creation of cubing items.

Uberdia method can control the amount of recovery. They just need to adjust the amount of Perfect Gems needed to summon.

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It already is a currency, albeit not as sought after as runes. You know, a ‘currency’ only has value due to the confidence in it. For example, if you got stackable runes and gems, it wouldn’t take long for giant piles of perfect gems to build up, which in turn would make them almost worthless, which in turn lowers the value of them, which in turn lowers the confidence in it, making the currency worthless.

Keep it as it is.

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You dont need to stack them, you will get your sol rune for a couple ot them already.

This makes no sense, sorry.

There is a reason why gold and not peanuts has been a currency through history, it is scarce and valuevable, gems are not.

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They already are used for trading, but they are not a currency.

A Blizzard Coin currency would solve all of these issues with trading and establish a solid economy not based on subjection of what each user needs at a given time.

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Do gems have intrinsic value?

If so, they retain some amount of worth regardless of what collapses around them as they have purpose other than trade.

If they do not, supply and demand determine. Anyone can get hundreds of gems if they choose to; making it easier to provide them to those who do not does diminish them as it will become expected, over time, that mass quantities are available always.

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I think his main point is that stacking gems can be “balanced” if they implement a sink for them by allowing players to sell them to spawn Uber Diablo.

I don’t think it’s a bad idea. It would definitely help with making the Uber Diablo spawn more community based since literally every player could contribute, and if they made it some insanely high number people would never know when to anticipate its spawn.

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This is a headache to look at. Try paragraphs

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Yeah, I think most reasonable people want gems, runes, and potions to be stackable. Just makes stashes cleaner, reduces the need for mules, and makes trading easier/quicker.

Hopefully we’ll get this into the game later on as it’s a pretty popular QoL improvement.

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“Jordan and Gulun”

Gulun? I have no idea what this is. You aren’t going to be trading Pgems as a currency unless the economy gets botted heavily. That only happens in oversaturated economies due to botting/duping.

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or most people wanting this game to change

can we stop with wanting to make this game easier.its pathetic

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Wanting to keep things pointlessly tedious is bad game design. For example, we could create a system where you have to jump up and down on one leg while playing. That would certainly make the game harder, but it’s a stupid and pointless design.

Forcing players to pick up and put down one gem at a time is pointlessly tedious once the numbers get sufficiently high. It’s why literally every RPG I can think of moved to a stacking system for objects like gems.

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If you split gul, you’ll get 2 ist. If you split ist, you’ll get 2 mal. Nothing complicated.
If you want to see something complicated, try diablo 2 classic rare-to-rare barter.

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It means less intuitive.

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Yeah I was on the fence about stacking gems and runes but have decided it would be the best way to go for sure.

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more character room for gem mules

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Yes, it is also a solution for Uber Dia. It is questionable whether the event to recover the Jordan Ring copy will work well in D2R. Summon Uber Dia with the Perfect Gem. If you had to sell thousands, it wouldn’t be a balance break. Of course, this requires stackable gems.

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Gems are fun but they are so prolific. They’re mostly just useful for cubing. Someone will trade you 30 PGs for a pul if you’re lucky.

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Agree but not because its a currency, its an item to barter with.

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I think it’s enough to adjust the drop rate of gems and make them useful like Uberdia summoning items.

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With one exception, I’m going to argue against the idea that gems, runes and potions should be stackable.

The problem is that one of the main features of Diablo 2 is space management. If everything can be stacked, space management on your character out in the wild (i.e. not your personal stash) becomes a non-issue. This means that way more items can be picked up before having to return to town, which will lead to huge inflation in the amount of gold on each character. Since there’s not much to do with gold except gamble, this will inevitably lead to more valuable items being created and reducing the value of said items in the economy.

It will also lead to way more survivability, as players will be able to carry way more potions on their character than before. It may even allow them to survive a ridiculous fight that the character has no business surviving, just by chugging full rejuv potion after full rejuv potion. This could seriously cheapen the difficulty of hardcore, for example.

The problems I pointed out in paragraph 1 will also apply to gems, with the exception of Perfect Gems. Perfect Gems are the exception because they almost always have to be transmuted from the cube and practically never fall in the wild. They are also the primary problem when it comes to stash management, so if anything should be stackable, it is Perfect Gems. The other cuts of gems should remain unstackable.

TLDR: Perfect Gems should be stackable, all other gems/runes/potions should remain unstackable.