Top Clears in Era 13 if Patch Goes Live As Is

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@Qwenta-2321

Everybody that plays the game at normal lvl knows which classes need a nerf: HF AoV needs a big nerf; bazooka needs to disapear; and the wd set on the PTR needs a big nerf.
DHs and necs need a big buff; wiz class needs a rework.

Agree with your assessment (and your first sentence that I did not quote).

@Alecta-2451

OP to call for buffs to a build that already clears 138 on PTR and is likely to hit 143+

Unlike the last PTR where I felt I could predict fairly accurately the top potential of ww/rend, I am far less certain of H90/frenzy. Given its single target characteristics that will require extensive fishing for maximal clears, I think the top clear might be higher than some have predicted during the PTR. However, I am not sure how much people will fish for the yellow elite rich good map with good rift guardian (one without adds) given the power of ww/rend. One thing I was keeping track of was how individual’s players performance was for those who cleared GR 130 on the PTR with frenzy. I need to go back to look at the precise numbers but I recall that by the end of the PTR, there was a handful of players (GR 130 and above with frenzy) who also a current leaderboard rank with ww/rend. Strikingly, the top live (ww/rend clears and PTR frenzy clears were rather similar. It seems like that the consensus is that frenzy is 5 GRs worse than ww/rend among the barb community. My opinion is different. I suspect that it may be worse than rend, but as you stated it will be more than GR 141 (You said 143+) . I just don’t know how much more.

@Meteorblade-2266

OP regularly claiming to be in favour of balance not once has he made a post in the DH or Necro forums advocating for buffs to them

Those requests were made in general discussion and in the PTR feedback forum. Please look there.

For example, I am surprised that you did not mention this thread in GD where you and I posted about DH buffs and strategy to get said buffs.

Where are the DH players?

I mean, back a couple of seasons ago, when Barbs didn’t get the buffs they expected in a patch and were told that those changes would come in a later patch, every bard on the forums flooded General Discussion with topics and posts, spamming the boards with them for weeks. When they got a response, it didn’t end. No, they posted even more, some of them even got private messages from Community Managers and the like and it still didn’t end. When did they stop? They stopped when they got some chan…

I also posted in GD that monks and barbs needed buffs that they ultimately received in patch 2.6.7. The 2 posts from January in the barb forum has 6 links to even earlier quotes of mine (some in GD) on buffing barbs and monks.

Nerf Thread on General

I do not know the post histories of others in that thread in detail; however, I do know my own. First, I have a longstanding history of asking for balance, both nerfs and buffs. I already provided multiple links to prior posts to demonstrate this fact. Many of these are on the new forum. Here are a couple examples from August: Here is a quote about nerfing crusaders: In addition, I was one of the people who expressed strong reservations about bazooka after is initial discovery on the foru…

Nerf Thread on General

@Sterps I think you are mistaken. In the post that is a couple above yours. I provided multiple quotes where I asked for barb buffs as well as nerfs to other overperforming class (such as pre- patch 2.6.7 wizards and patch 2.6.7a crusaders and wizards). Jut to be clear, I will add another set of quotes to prove that I asked for barb buffs. Given this, the evidence is unequivocal. “Forest plots” clearly asked for buffs to barbs when they were weak and nerfs to multiple overperforming class…

@Free-1746

for dunking

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