Yes I was kicked from a pub group with 2 demon hunters and me doing a rift not performing good enough for them. Yes I play a Wizard since 2012, and I dont wanna play anything else, thank you. No I dont wanna haft to be paragon 3.000 to just barely be able to do anything as a Wizard. Yes I can play games, dont tell me to get gut - Im not a elite player, but I know how to play also.
God or whatever its called is a damn joke. They destroy 110’s with 3 other people in the game, carrying the whole group, to point of boredom for the others who aint a Demon hunter.
Makes Diablo 2 balance issues seem mild, and dont get me started on that game…PS remove paragon or cap it at 1000.
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Let me just give you a hint that pub groups are very very bad in general. It takes a miracle to be randomly matched in a group that is functional and that everyone is capable of contributing. It is thus better to find a group via a community or a chat channel.
The only pub groups that are functional are T16 rift runs and bounties since the bar is low enough that it doesn’t matter what class/build you use too much. For GRs however, a good group requires at least 1 support character and good team synergy.
The GoD set is strong but not overpowered when you consider Necromancers, Witch Doctors, and Crusaders in higher GRs. The DH build is fast though for speed runs (but even then conventional LoD mages Necros can outperform it).
There are indeed balance issues which might be somewhat addressed in the next patch but I don’t think DH need a nerf aside from a change to missile dampening monsters.
Paragon levels don’t matter so much until massive amounts are obtained. If you have around 2000 paragon, going to 3000 paragon will maybe grant ~25% more damage which is about 1.5 GRs worth. The real benefit from paragon is that in gaining those levels, you likely found far better gear to bump your character up a lot.
Bro full stop - Diablo 3 is a dead game ,especially on non-season. Im not gonna spend 23 mins to LFM in the like 5 active channels where only 500 people are even paricpating in. Diablo 3’s LFG system is the problem - We need a proper dedicated lobby like Diablo 2, where you can name your games etc.
If you think Demon hunters are fine, your delusional. They are on another level, and I know what other builds have done in the past, thank you. Also the only way to Wizard could even compete if you look throughout our history if Flashire (woh) was the premium build with its fast movement and AOE. But now the only proper speed build we have is a joke for lvling gems 0-65 or something.
And ofcourse paragon levels matter…jesus. Do you know what intellect is??? Its damage and survival, its crucial - Look I have 13k int right now, if I did augments Id get like 17k tops…And then these paragon 5000 people have like 50k int…
Also @Venaliter Your gear for the LOD hydra is quit good, as I took a look, but its not gonna matter. I have close to your gear level, and 1.1k paragon. I know that gear upgrades will not suddenly make things much better. In fact on some items I have better rolls than you if I was gonna play my LOD hydra, but currently I play with frost and set.
No need to be hostile. Here, this thread I made a few months ago might illuminate the effects of paragon points. It isn’t as much as people think and it helps toughness more in the long run.
Upon looking at your EU profile (since you don’t have a NA profile), I noticed the issue might be looking for games in nonseason with around paragon 1100. Have you tried seasons? They are much more favorable for lower paragon players and 1100 paragon is quick to attain these days.
Sorry you had a bad experience in a public group. More often than not, public groups are just fine. However, occasionally you will run into some people who for one reason or another aren’t happy. Usually this a a couple of friends or clan mates that haven’t learned how to play nice with others.
Chin up though. It’s just one game. Keep on trying, and don’t let a few bad eggs bring you down.
Most public groups are just fine. Otherwise your options are to play solo or make some like minded friends. Public groups are completely optional and always come with a little risk.
Are you viewing power in terms of solo ability or group? For groups, DHs are not part of the 4 man meta. In terms of solo power, you can look at the non-season leaderboard to avoid confounders due to the seasonal buff.
This leaderboard includes the greater rift clears of crusaders and witch doctors that were nerfed in the latest patch but their GR clears still exist since there was not a leaderboard reset in era/non-season.
For solo:
How many DHs have cleared GR 150?
How many crusaders with GR 150?
How many witch doctors with GR 150?
How many necromancers with GR 150?
How many of wizards, monks, and barbarian combined?
had a look at those LBs, cru, witch doctor, necro and DH have all done 150s. DH has a few more than witch doctor or cru, necro a few less. That would suggest that it’s easier to do a 150 with DH, but I think those numbers are skewered because there has been a massive influx of players playing DH in s20 vs the other character classes. We’d have to know the player base for each character class and normalise the stats on a per capita basis imho.
But that just demonstrates that the god build, along with some other builds, is ultra powerful. We all know that. The real issue is that some of us have issues getting god to perform, some of us don’t like the play style. For those people, we’re being artificially limited by the imbalance in the game on being able to rank on the LBs. I mean, if I’m playing s6 impale, and god is 10 GRs higher on average, those 10 GRs will push me down on the LB rankings cos I’m pushing s6 impale to the max, and others have a 10 GR headroom cos they’re playing the god build. I’m ignoring the mass group players with mega paragon on the solo LBs (which is a massive issue of balance with the game of its own account).
If s6 impale was as powerful as the new god build, I could compete on merit…I currently cannot do that. If you have 2 boxers in the ring, and the rules are that one of them has to fight with one hand tied behind is back, that’s not balanced is it? This is exactly what is happening with the current state of DH build balance in the game. This issue is also a problem with EVERY other character class. There is zero reason why each character class can’t have 5 or 6 builds that can push equally as high, or at least with 1-2 GR (max) of each other.
I’ve played the last 2 seasons HC on PS4 (rank 4 in s18 and rank 7 in s19 - I’m a solo player with typically only p1200 on my max clear vs the p4000+ that the group players ahead of my on the LBs have!). This season, I’m languishing currently in rank 25 with a GR120 clear (not my final clear obviously, will go higher, prolly a 123). There’s NO WAY I can compete with the god build players. The highest s6 impale player has cleared a GR122 (just). The highest god player has cleared a GR136 with 3 or so in the 130s behind him. I don’t know how much paragon the guy with the 122 clear has (paragon is hidden on the console LBs, stupid design, makes no commonsense, but hey, it’s Blizzard!), but i’d bet a sizeable amount of money that he is probably north of p2000. Of course, my ranking is being hampered by being solo and low paragon. I did a 123 with 7 mins to spare in NS with p2700.
Except the site that I linked is non-season not S20. Morevoer, lots of people played WD and crusaders last patch as these were the only 2 classes capable of solo GR 150.
Crusaders and witch doctors were both nerfed, presumably because they were “ultra powerful”. Time will tell with GoD DH but of history is our guide…
To date, what solo class’s build that cleared GR 150 in non-seasons was not nerfed in the next patch?
I’m not sure, I don’t follow PC LBs that closely (pretty irrelevant to myself directly as I’m on PS4). But, I’m guessing that yes, they’ll get re-balanced. I know both WD and Cru were nerfed for the 2.6.8 patch/s20, I think by about 4 GRs?
Were you kicked from a ‘rift’ or a ‘greater rift?’
If it was just a ‘rift’, it’s most likely because you did not move as fast as them.
If it was a ‘greater rift,’ maybe your deeps wasn’t good enough.
Or perhaps they inspected your character and didn’t like what they saw.
Or maybe they booted you to invite a friend or another DH.
Or maybe you are not telling the whole story.
Who knows?
A lot of pugs are toxic. It is, what it is. If you get booted, move on. Heck, the chances are you will find a better one. As you do pugs, look for the decent players and build up a friends list. Maybe join a clan. Or you can just QQ and hope someone will hand to an e-tissue. All up to you friend.
Sorry for kicking you, maybe you should play seasons and leave NS for higher paragon players. Get a pvl, leach a dozen or so gr 110’s and magically you’re paragon 1000
Yeah… Not a good season to play as Wizards lol, they have no good builds to compete for spot in meta. But yeah overall the balance in this game is stupid. That “fun” build you chose to play could turn out to be crap and cant even contribute or participate in high GR level groups. Honestly think that the D3 balance team comes into work drunk and playing around with a broken calculator… Pretty sure if they fired the D3 balance team and hired a few of us from the forums we could make the game better. I see more creativity from forum/community members than current D3 team.