how is this good behaviour? I’d label any of that as toxic, horrible behaviour that has no play in a social aspect in a game.
WTH? Are you serious? My god the arrogance is amazing…last I looked the forum COC directs you to be nice to others…not sure how your post is being “nice”. I could report it, but i know the mods would do nothing. Been there, done that, not gonna waste anymore time on it.
And, as per the OP’s thread title, the game is unbalanced. If all the builds performed to the same level, it wouldn’t be an issue, would it?
so, it begs the quesiton, are people grouping up to be social and have fun, or is it solely for “efficiency”. Don’t bother with answering it, I know the answer and it isn’t pretty.
I still maintain that it is not hard, nor time consuming to fix the game’s myriad balance issues.
yes, you can certainly look at it that way. There’s 2 sides of the coin though - do we buff everything in power creep, or do we start nerfing the OP builds? I mean, people were up in arms with the original vision for primal ancients cos of “power creep man!” and yet people are silently happy to see builds buffed, buffed, buffed and more buffed…is that really the answer? Is buffing s6 (to match god build) the right way of approaching this? Or, did Blizzard get the balancing wrong with the god build (either accidentally, or deliberately). I’m leaning towards the latter, cos this is a consistent issue with this game - new build gets favoured and OP…it’s just happened far too many times for it to be a co-incidence in my eyes.
I just want to be competitive and not forced to play a particular build that I dislike. Is that too much to ask? People keep complaining about the lack of build diversity in the game - is it OK to have a lot of builds for each character class, but only 1 is OK to play in terms of “power”? Is that balance and diversity? Not in my eyes. Proper balance and diversity is having a bunch of builds for each character class of EQUAL ability. That is something that has so far eluded Blizzard. I’m waiting for the usual suspects to turn up and accuse me of trolling etc lol. Been there, done that, but I’m not going to change my point of view because of a few online bullies.
And to add to this , if you do not play 1 of the “meta” build and you get kicked from pug groups as what has happened to me a number of times, so I play solo now but I get punished because I do not like to play a meta build.
We can agree that game is not good for too long now . But you still have an option. No one force you to play Diablo 3. And no one force you to blindly trust Blizzard with Diablo 4, when it is out.
Don’t play non season so can’t say anything goin that besides the multiple people saying “it’s dead”. At the same times, I’ve seen a lot of these non seasonal players chime in saying “hey we have a clan that plays only ns and enjoy playing in groups”.
Wizard versus GoD in speed?..no comparison, but doesn’t have to be One. WD has always been “slow and steady” yet they also can clear pretty darn high, just have to know how to play it and group everything up and you slowly walk…they start dying.
Wizard versus GoD on power?..well, let’s step back not too long ago when wizard held the crown of 150’s while the DH was “slow” compared to wizard. So it’s the others turn to shine but that’s not cool?
I love my LoD hydra wizard, my type of play style. I disliked all the stupid mechanics of archon/meteor and who wants to drag an elite around with firebirds? I don’t play GoD at all as it’s not my play style, but I have no room to hate those who do play it. If someone got cocky because my wizard/WD can’t keep up to their GoD set…I would just laugh and say “you chose to play the fastest build, You should know the consequences and know you would be in front of those who chose not to play that build”.
Wizards ARE lacking in power right now, but so are monks on the scale of things. Monks have been behind way longer than wizards…guess those who choose to play monks just know it’s about fun, not about being on top and even when they want buffs, guess they know how to not try and nerf other classes.
Well it is the fastest build in the game so…yes. Its mechanics are run-and-gun, it deals damage while moving. This is hard to compete with from a mechanical, not just balance, perspective.
If you got kicked its prob the other 3 are looking for a certain char. If you are a lod hydra wiz, I guarantee its not what they wanted. I know they should be in there own channel but it happens to me to.
DH has been experiencing that for YEARS, getting kicked from pub because nobody wanted a DH in the group. doesn’t hurt the wiz to get the same treatment for a little while
Hey Djuntas,
i understand your issue, but pls note this:
What you experienced with the pub group is something that i have experienced as a DH-Player for the last… 4 years? DH was for a long time the most hated und undesirable class in pub groups. The class was only accepted at speed bounties.
Blizz has finally made DH great again, it’s time to do the same for other classes with the upcoming patch.
many players are toxic.
They will judge you because of the paragon.
They will judge you because of the gears.
They will judge you because of how you play…
yada yada yada…
And ever since my friends stopped playing D3 I never play pub games.
I looked on d3planner with my GoD HA, UE MS and Witch doctor M6 SB DPS.
GoD HA. 39% more DPS between p1500 and p2500. 27% more DPS between p2500 and p3500.
UE MS. 40% more DPS between p1500 and p2500. 28% more DPS between p2500 and p3500.
M6 SB. 36% more DPS between p1500 and p2500. 26% more DPS between p2500 and p3500.
I noticed in public GR (EU) that many high paragon players are avoiding p1xxx players. ~40% DPS difference is insane.
And another reason why solo players need a buff to get above p2000.
yes! Why would I want to play in toxic groups? I don’t call that fun. I think people kicking you cos you went to town too much, or took a micro fraction of a second too long to do something is absolutely insanely rude and unreasonable.
I paid for the game though. I enjoy many aspects of the game. But, there are areas where I see issues (paragon, differential power between solo and groups, lack of build balance, lack of actual diversity of builds that CAN perform, etc). And no, Blizzard will not be getting anymore money from this lad. They burnt that bridge a long, long time ago.
That’s a horrible attitude. No character class/build should be sidelined like that. EVER.
Yup, yup and thrice yup!
I’ve been saying it for a long time now that the paragon balancing between solo and group is BROKEN. UTTERLY broken.
I’m guessing many “toxic” group players love the current status quo and no doubt they’ll return, as they usually do, to drown us sensible folk out with their pro-group nonsense. I guess they must fear the talented solo players who would typically beat the hell out of them on the LBs if not for the paragon differential.
Bro ofcourse It was a greater rift. And it keeps happening when these 5000 paragon ppl joins and dont even care about greater rift 110, also the fact im a Wizard. Look, game is all about playing OP build and paragon level 5000, nothing else. No skils, no gear hunt.
Just now I had another 10000 (well 10600) GOD DH destroying a 115. I could just run along him, trying to keep up. THE GUY HAS 60K!!! 6 0 0 0 0 GUT DAMN DEX. How bloody unbalanced aint this game? Do you know how much stacked survival and damage that is? Only way you can get ahead in this game is to grind paragon…Who cares about my near GG primal weapon or other good drops Ive had lately, loot has no point.
The issue is that you’re playing a Wizard, which is currently the slowest / weakest of all seven classes. You too could have 60K main stat, and they still wouldn’t want you because you’re slower / weaker than the other six classes with the equivalent (or less) paragon.
Maybe if they buffed some legendaries Wizard wouldn’t be so slow.
Just change few of this legendaries powers to this and Wizards should clear 110-120 GRs much faster than they do right now:
Serpent’s Sparker
from:
You may have one extra Hydra at a time and they deal 250-300% increased damage.
to:
You may have two extra Hydras at a time and they deal 450-500% increased damage. You also gain 25% increased movement speed for 5 seconds for each Hydra out.
This means that you can have up to 3 Hydras at once and while they’re out you gain a total of 75% extra movement speed bonus for 5 seconds.
The Magistrate
Your Hydras now periodically cast Frost Nova and deal 350-400% increased damage. (up from 250-300%)
Deathwish
While channeling Arcane Torrent, Disintegrate, or Ray of Frost for at least 1 second, all damage is increased by 450-525%. (up from 250-325%)
Etched Sigil
While channeling Arcane Torrent, Disintegrate, or Ray of Frost for at least 1 second, the damage of your Arcane Power Spenders is increased by 225-250% (up from 125-150%), and you also cast one of your other damaging Arcane Power Spenders every second.
All these changes would make Hydra builds a lot better, especially the LOD Hydra ones and make clearing 110-120 GRs (or even highier) much faster than right now.
The speed boost was intentionally added to the Serpent’s Sparker wand instead of the “New Hydra Set”, so you could have a choice between playing a LOD Hydra build or by using the new Typhon’s Veil set build one…
You would still be much slower than the DHs GOD set build, but much faster than it is right now…