[Theory] Auction House in RoS

Not every. I saw bot complaint that starts with “I saw bot in the group of random players - ban this botter!”.

I suggested already solution to fix this:

but botters will be still there (just for trolling another players) though bots will provide exactly zero profit for rankings. The best example of this - complaints about cheaters in D3 on PS3.

Complaints of some small amount of players on forums which will play anyway with or without AH? vs players that leaved D3 at all and will not buy D4? Nice argument.

Now is the RoS. No one can be forced to the AH because anyone can obtain medium gear with the minimum efforts. And what is the reason to hate AH now?

As you can see in this thread, there are another reasons for returning AH - to do not collect and salvage the tons of garbage (legs) because now even top primals (the second such item on the soft) are just 15 souls, no more. With AH it is useful item that can be exchanged on other item without necessity to intersect with some one else 1 by 1 or to farm forums for such items or to spam in the game chat for this. In PoE there is the trade that has additional functional like AH has (i.e. simultaneous interaction of millions players without trade forums and chats) but anyone need to hold in its mind the true cost of all items for that to know what items should be exchanged on which one else. In Diablo 2 and 3 no analogues of such trade at all, only AH (in D3).

And what? D4 has trade already.
Though there are all such complaints.
And I say - devs know now what most fans want (trade or AH) using their data about classic and RoS. But they make additional mistake when they hearing the smallest number of fans which complaint on forum against AH and trade. Like ones that they did with removing of AH and introducing primals in the RoS (at the last moment of time the base of players of PoE was doubled - you can check this moment by yourself using resources steamstats and steamcharts, both com).

You sayd that removing LB can help to stop botting.
I gave your example why such solution can’t help to stop botting.

AH in this theory is optional. Do not want to pay - do not pay.

You just do not understand simple things, so I can return this to yourself: “keep living in your strange world where the difference in the gear (primals vs ancients) gives much more power that the difference in the paragon (2k vs 6k)”.

You can’t provide exact numbers of profit between such items and can’t understand small profit of them comparing with the paragon, so it is uselessly to talk with you about such things.

You can’t explain why is so. While I can explain why is so - just because Blizz want to sell as many copies of D4 as possible whereas they do not need to do the same for D3 RoS (they did this already). That’s all.

Very small difference comparing the difference between 2k and 6k paragon or random between ideal and bad rifts.

AH is about exchange of these primals that “are not needed” by your words. Why do you still have arguments about AH? I.e. about trading of items that “are not needed”? Nice gift from you. Thanks.

You made one simple mistake again and again: yes, you will obtain access to the primals of other players. BUT! And all of them will obtain access to them. I.e. instead of your meaning that ONLY you will obtain access to all these items of another millions players while they - NOT.
Exactly, initially, all these millions of players will obtain access to the limited amount of top primals - i.e., say, millions of players (that want such items) will obtain access to the tens or hundreds of such items. They can’t obtain access to the millions of them due to the fact that such items are very rare. Hence such items will have very big price and the only way to obtain them - to drop another item that will have the same price as it (to sold it and to obtain enough gold to buy such rare item). Bots (gold farming) can’t help with such prices too (I gave you example with some prices of classic already).
And yes: AH is not market at all. It is the way to exchange one item on another (both with the same price) using gold as intermediate pool.

Nice argument: “I do not know, but I think that they will find other methods”.

It is the main arguments of ones who already leaved D3 and asked for trade in D4 otherwise they will not buy this game at all. The official position of devs: “hey, guys, you do not need primals at all” - does not matter at all, because they did just one more big mistake (hm, in the game with the grind players do not need items - very funny).

You forgot about seasons with the limited duration.
You forgot about fishing of rifts (this is not about gear and paragon).
You forgot about some another things, so it is not primals that keeping users playing the game.

You do not obtain access to such number of items in the season.
Ask ones who played in D3 classic from the start about AH in that time.

Really? And where is the second addon for D3 after RoS (with new act and so on) if “many people returned” and hence devs obtained very big amount of money which they lost in classic? No of it. Moreover, the part of this addon were introduced into the game for zero price (because devs have big doubts that such addon will buy enough number of players). It is like words about necro-pack that it was succesfull. And where is the next pack? No? Why? So funny arguments about AH and its role for the Diablo. Especially with returning of the trade in D4.

Yeah, of course.
Steam has no problems with its AH, but Blizz has.
Though both companies are from USA.

At first, prove this moment.
I also thought initially that RoS (and removing of AH) was the best moment in the history of D3 (and I did pre-order of RoS + tested it on CBT and OBT), but facts and their analysis talk directly opposite things to my initial opinion.

I never played in WoW. Only D3. D1 and D2 I just passed once.

They did not do this. They just said what exact things of original AH they do not like and such things of AH I removed in this theory of ideal AH.