Having an event during a rift killing monsters for you is not a seasosal theme tbh
What with the help of the damage dealers you clear 2-3-5 grs more ? Even if theu had the snowball or laser 10x stronger occuring every 30 seconds
What is the point ? It doesnt add any flavors to the gameplay…
Even rorg season added more
Even double bounties was better then this kind of stuff
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A seasonal theme should be smthg like we’ve added a fourth place in kanais cube but u can only add non multiplier legendary powers
Add some flavor and / or twists
So people do something new
Then it is a theme
We added damage dealing visual effects is NOT a theme
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We added MINIMAL damage dealing visual effects is NOT a theme is what I believe you meant to say. The season 19 theme of kill streaks, at least everything was spelled out when it was going to happen and you could play accordingly.
When I heard this season’s theme of an opened Kanai’s cube, I was a little skeptical. It is nice though. An idea I had was that they leave the cube how it is currently with one weapon, one armor and one jewelry, but open a fourth slot in the cube that is wildcard and can be from anywhere (how the cube is this season).
While the general idea behind this season is fine, I find the implementation to be just bad. The effects are too slow, too small and just not powerful enough. If the firewall was as wide as the screen and was 4 times faster then yeah I could hang with that. The tornados should follow you and pretty much surround you. The electrobreath needs to be about twice as strong if not more but otherwise it is my favorite effect. And the snowball should be 3x faster and probably 3 more of them. Is there even an earth effect? If there is that just shows how bad it is that I did not even notice it. I wish I could blame this on the current world situation, but I doubt that that was the problem. All I know is that I will be only playing this season long enough to get the pets as neither the DH set I was hoping for, or the season theme are interesting enough to get me to play for very long.
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i agree the visuals are too blinding and too much clutter
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Sadly, most of my friends feel the same way about season journey and done. This is the first season that hasn’t had the hype train in the station that is ready to go to full steam ahead on season’s start.
Thanks all for the candid responses and feedback regarding the season theme. I have forwarded this thread over to the greater team.
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I think the theme is very comparable to S19. While it’s highly regarded as one of the favorite themes in the D3 community as it actually added a mechanic to the game.
Because of the previous S19 theme we can’t not compare it.
First, the frequency, even at lower levels was MUCH higher.
As far as I’ve observed these effects last 10-20 seconds on a 2 minute timer, leaving us with roughly 90-100 seconds with no effect at all, that’s not ok, it’s not engaging.
Second, the damage. Had the damage been actually decent, equivalent to a conduit pylon for example, the small duration and randomness would have maybe worked. Remember, we need a REASON to play season and the theme should somehow add to the game mechanics, not just some visual mumbojumbo.
Third, the lack of knowledge.
Oh boy… guys. Who thought about this?
Aside from the lightning breath, all of the powers are VERY VERY BAD. Not just because of the damage or frequency but… what if i’m a WW barb moving at warp speed? I just won’t profit from the other effects as they don’t seem to follow me, and their AOE is only a screen, like, guys, we go through a screen in 0.5 seconds. I don’t want to be rude, but please play this game before implementing these things. I could wake up in the morning and look at the draft for these powers and immediately tell you they won’t work without even testing them.
Fourth, the effects themselves.
“Meteors rain from the skies around you.” - a couple of green meteors that fall slowly into an area the size of 1-2 screens.
“Breathe lightning.” - by far the better one, mechanically.
“A wall of flame engulfs everything.” - I … I just can’t. Guys, I can’t, I laughed when I saw this. It’s a fire fence. It engulfs “everything” ?.. Everything of what? The 6 feet of it’s length?
“Release twisters of pure energy.” - twisters, yay, how new. Yay, of course they don’t follow us.
“Crush your foes under the weight of rolling snowballs.” - I legit saw 2 snowballs when I was playing. And you may want to make them visually distinct from the ones monsters throw.
So, either:
- Balance frequency + damage so it hits decently and lasts more and make it follow us.
- If you don’t want it to follow us, make it deal very high damage. This in combination with a timer gives us a chance to make pulls and adds some strategic element to the theme.
Otherwise, I think you’ll find most people just won’t bother pushing this season, since it’s current form adds absolutely nothing.
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If the theme is too strong however then we are back to just playing 4 support in 150s. I would rather have theme do nothing that kill everything for you.
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Does a season theme need to be limited to one effect?
If peope hate the elemental thing, just change it a bit and maybe add another season theme. 2x mats + 2x goblins + Elemantal buff or so.
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Being the season of elements, they should give everyone a passive convention of elements. And also have these effects last forever, but change every 2 minutes. They wouldn’t need to buff or change them really (aside from the fire wall and snowball, because wtf). If the effects are up permanently and also effected by the COE buff, that would be enough to make it interesting.
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Team of one who doesn’t even play the game?
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One thing I found with the theme is that just before the event happens the contrast will go very dark or very bright, really makes it difficult to see upcoming mobs during rifts, I’ve been blind-sided a few times now because I couldn’t see what was attacking me. Visually the effects are appealing with exception of the single roiling snowball (quite lame imo). Could use some notifiable damage.
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Sugest to the team to add a Global Convention of Elements buff to the the seasonal buff freeing up a ring slot where Stone of Jordan might go, or a Defensive ring in hardcore, not to mention COE would fit the Elemental theme
Damage part of season theme is easy to fix. I actually think it was good for PTR that season theme did not any damage so far. That means you got feedback about balance from whole players base, season players and non season players combined. If this was intentional move from you guys I think it was really smart.
Having started a necromancer from scratch they work great at lower levels pre-70.
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There is point where they become more of a light show than a useful addition and DMG tapers off.
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If they scaled exponentially with or commensurate with level damage (as in GR levels 0-150 or Normal through to above T16) they would be more useful.
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Someone suggested down to 30 seconds. Initially, I thought this seemed good on paper, but after playing with it, a 30-second ineffective light-show would become a distraction and if it was powerful, it would be overpowered every 30 seconds.
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The random Diablo-like laser, Snowball do damage but the poison seems very underpowered.
The idea is not bad by any means. It falls a little short, that’s all.
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People seems to forget, that there was a time, when there wasn’t any Season Theme and you only played for the fresh start and leaderboard etc…
While we all loved the Season 19 Theme, we also loved when Uruguay was the best football team in the world, but thats a real long time ago now, and we still watch the world cup, even if the winners is always France, Brazil, Germany or Spain…
IF the theme is adjusted to be a COE theme please don’t make it global but limited to the specific class so that a Necro doesn’t have to wait for the cycles for fire, arcane and holy for example.
Also regardless of what you do please add an icon by party members for where they are in their COE cycle, like we have when they get IP or trigger their cheat death.
It doesn’t feel good to get kicked from a group because you refuse to download THUD or are uncomfortable using Discord with random people to time CC skills.
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I just want the screen effect to be removed. Its making it even harder to see whats going on ingame.
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I, unfortunately, agree that the season theme is… a bit lack-luster. 
I love the sound of elements, and cool effects. I actually got confused in testing, when the meteors/twisters came in- I was fighting magdha, and thought I had found some weird boss fight thing… And while the effects do look decent, it’s usually hard to tell that they’re friendly, so I end up trying to dodge something that does no damage. I’m sure this points out that I’m a scrub… anyway, it would have been nice to have some sort of counter and/or buff to know that it was a friendly effect.
Also, I would like to throw a shout out to implementing seasonal things into the base/vanilla gameplay. For instance, I absolutely loved the season of greed and finding double goblins everywhere. IT WAS SO COOL! and panic inducing. xD I love it. Also, double bounties, and the season of the archives- These are nice QoL changes, and/or a really cool mechanic that gives us more options/ more things to do. Like, the cube season- it gives openings for builds that are really cool/different, and I really like having build diversity! LoD did a great job of that, as it’s less restricting than LoN b/c rings have such strong lego effects. I know that you guys have a limited team, and have other games that might need work as well, so I don’t expect anything massively extravagant. However, I do echo the other people that are saying that it’s really, really nice to have a build/mechanic defining league.
For example- with this season of the elements- you could have some legendary powers active like you did with the season of grandeur. Maybe choose one for each element, and then put it on a 8 sec cycle, so that it will only be active every other CoE cycle. (I’m thinking here that the elements would only cycle through the character available elements as the CoE.) Or maybe add a slot to the cube that can only house one of the elemental damage legendary powers. With either of these options, you could leave the current season power, and probably just buff the damage to conduit levels like people have suggested.
Maybe for the future, you could have some sort of crafting ability that would let us combine legendary powers on an item? or maybe craft rares into a legendary with a legendary power of our choice? i.e. craft a sever with odyn son’s power, or the cindercoat power. I’m not sure if these are feasible- I just want to throw out some cool ideas.
I always wanted to see the theme as a nuclear shockwave. The player in the group that killed the 100th mob has a circular blast that goes out from them and covers the screen, which gets “x” time stronger on every 100th kill. So like 100Th kill=10x weapon damage, 200=100x , 300=1000x and so one plus it also becomes weaker as it expands or whatever that would be balance.
I Would think it would be effective as it should start in the Center of the mobs you pull unless you have someone running off and it it promotes large kill chains.