base damage in offhand is minuscule, the net gain is worth it. what is the problem with taking Command skeletons?
why are you being so toxic? it’s hypocritical to insult people while you claim they have issues and are a jerk.
i proved you wrong mathematically and scientifically. Jesseth = more damage and no loss to survivability.
i have a lot of accounts. thinking of buying more tbqh, s22 is really looking fun i think im going to invite some new people to try it. I have 10 wow accounts and lots of blizzard balance and Christmas isnt far off and Shadowlands is delayed thankfully.
Another blocked one. Amazing that you have not been banned for spam yet. You proved no point btw, the bonus from a phylactery on a 1-handed weapon is not miniscule at all. Nobody agrees with you.
When you started this thread, where did it mention that it was about the Masquerade set ONLY? You titled it “Season 22 = only Jesseth Season” and stated that the Jesseth Set was the ONLY viable weapon for Necromancers to use and you asked to be proved wrong. I think that I proved you wrong since EVERY LoD build can not use that weapon set. Now if you were to change your thread title to “Jesseth set - Best in slot for Masquerade”, then I’d likely agree with you. The problem is that you are convinced of your superiority in this game (especially evident in some of your other threads) and that type of attitude can really turn other people to have negative responses to almost anything you say, even if it has merit.
Quoted for truth. The offhand damage bonus is VERY early in the damage calculation process and is before most, if not all, multipliers like set bonuses and the like.
If the top performing build uses jesseth, everyone will start using that build or be left in the dust.
It’s not just Masquerade though you’ll find that jesseth is best on most set builds.
The only builds it doesnt apply to are LoD builds, in which are only used when they outperform the sets, and in this case it does not. LoD for necro literally got worse with the nerf coming to Trag scythe.
So you tell me, why would someone play a worse set that under performs unless they werent serious about maximizing potential.
That’s why Season 22 is only Jesseth season, but if you want to troll and play a weaker build just to say “im a snowflake” then you go girl. I still see some people playing Revives. Be different if you want, but this conversation is serious and you’ll only be considered if you act serious.
But you again have failed to show that any top builds use (on the PTR) or will (when the patch goes live) Jesseths. I looked on the US leaderboard…EVERY build is with SOTC. You are factually incorrect.
But Reilena’s Shadowhook will be more productive in that 4th slot…as will Tragouls. The 200% buff is worth more when combined with the 400 or so damage from an ancient phylactery than Jesseth’s and having to use Command Skeletons.
You realize that Reservoir leads to an ENORMOUS Essence pool for Shadowhook yes?
Reilana’s will get you 330%, Nyr’s is probably the better choice over Reilana’s but you have to flood your bar with bad abilities and in the end you’re giving up Blood Rush.
I dont think you understand that Trag’s went from god tier to dumpster fire in one nerf.
A: I’m not trolling, I’m stating facts.
B: I’m not a girl, I’m a man
C: I’m probably not even playing Necro in season 22
D: I played Necro this season and basically only used Masquerade
E: I don’t push high and mostly solo so I’m not concerned with maximizing potential, i.e. I play builds that I like and that I find fun
F: I’m still not convinced that adding 11 to 12 GR’s to Masquerade will surpass LoD but if it does, excellent. I enjoyed playing Masquerade this season, especially early on with Sage set to get extra DB’s. I looked at the leaderboards in the US and the highest I saw for MoBC was in the high teens. Poison Scythe is in the high 140’s. If you add 12 to MoBC for the bracers and take away 7 from Poison Scythe for losing the extra Trag Fang bug triple damage, Poison Scythe STILL surpasses MoBC by 5 to 10 GR’s. Now when you factor in the 4th cube slot, ALL Necro build will get a boost in power since Necro weapons have high damage multipliers. Poison Scythe will likely go with Shadowhook (extra potent due to permanent Simulacrums) which is about a 4.3x multiplier and MoBC will get an additional 5x from SotC in cube (equipping Jesseth) so it will close the gap a bit, but I still think Poison Scythe is still top dog. We will see when the 2nd phase of the ptr goes live.
To get a 5x multiplier with Nayr’s you only need 4 poison skills, Bone Armor Dislocation (needed for SotC and it procs Krysbin’s), Blighted Marrow, a poison generator like Bone Spikes (good at range) and 1 other, which leaves Blood Rush and Simulacrum. If you forego Blood Rush, you can have a 6x multiplier alongside Maltorius 8x multiplier but it restricts your mobility.
It will effectively lose a 3x multiplier which is a 7GR drop. Going from high 140’s in season to low 140’s is not going from “God Tier to Dumpster fire”. Plus while it loses a 3x multiplier, it will gain a 4.3x multiplier so 150 should be well within it’s power. Adding a 6x to MoBC and an additional 5x to MoBC will add about 21 GR’s to it’s capability. I’ve mostly seen high hundred teens in season for MoBC so it should be high 130’s, maybe low 140’s in season 22.
Your point about Nayrs is well taken. If you use Blighted Marrow and a poison generator plus Dislocation, you really only need 1 skill. Though what about a curse? You need to apply a curse to get Dayntees and to get the other 2 from Cursed Form.
I just finished a thorough round of meticulous testing, and I dont think the top passes are even going to use SotC at all. The most efficient setup with Masquerade is showing to be Jesseth equiped + Morts-Reilana cubed.
Command Skeletons synergizes so well with this build it’s literally like Peanut Butter and Jelly. It was meant to be. You people have no idea how good Command skelies is with this set. Eventually you will, but you’re not visionaries like me.
Why would you use jesseth and give up the about 20% damage increase from an offhand, and a 15% bone spear damage roll and a skill slot on your bar, when you could use sotc to get the same damage multiplier and not give up any damage, and use bone spike and nayrs in the cube? Even reilenas would be more damage than jesseth and it only costs a passive slot instead of wasting a skill bar slot.
i dont think you understand how the game works, or you got your numbers from someone who failed math.
offhand +damage does not come even close to 20%. Yikers.
Who is wasting a skill slot on their bar? Trading Bone Armor for Command Skellies, is a great trade on this build 100%, you dont even understand.
Nayrs on this build? oof, and you’re talking about wasting skill slots. Using Nyr’s in any combination for Masquerade is just terrible.
The average damage gain on a primal offhand is 537.5, the average damage of a primal 1h scythe with 10% damage is 2315, so the offhand adds a little more than 20% damage. Maybe you don’t know how the game works, but you add the weapon damage and offhand damage together and then multiply that by any applicable %s.
Care to elaborate on how trading 30% damage reduction and a stun for a skill that literally does nothing, or maybe gives you a little bit of healing, is a good trade?