Raging Storm + Wicked Wind Twisters Bugged

[Cratic-1413]

@MasterJay-1651

…and if you didn’t like corner stacking honestly WW was enough.

It definitely wasn’t enough back then, but I agree, it could be if balanced properly, even with corner stacking in the mix.

@MasterJay-1651

about paragon because yes this basically forces reverse archon

I don’t think this forces Reverse archon; but it might incentivize it more.

Non-archon LoD is still a very good build, but now even that build will require more paragons to balance toughness.

@MasterJay-1651

Okay wait so instead of what everyone assumed and wanted:

From the original PTR bug post here, my assumption is that the OP and others wanted a WW to match the other runes, in roughly a 1525%*5 = 7625% amount style of stacking.

I recommended an 1150% per stack average value, which is pretty much where we’re at now with Wicked Wind. I guess I got my wish?

@MasterJay-1651

What about 3200x2 (since it’s 2 twisters for a raging x2 + 1) IE the original formula Lexy thought it was doing?

That’s not what Lexyu said in his testing; he was comparing values of a 2 stacked Twister using Raging Storm (5x Twisted sword multi) and they were about the same as a 2 stacked Twister using Wicked Wind (5x Twisted sword multi).

So, 3200% when the first two twisters combined for Raging Storm, and the same for Wicked Wind.

He also noted the difference between:
1 Raging Storm cast (5x Twisted Sword Multi): ~102 damage in his test; representative of the 1525% weapon damage.
vs.
1 Wicked Wind cast (5x Twisted Sword Multi): ~56 damage in his test; representative of the 835% weapon damage.

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EDIT: Ah, I see here what you meant:

@LexyuTV-1434

A 2 stack twister has 2x Raging Storm damage. Any additional twisters added have Wicked Wind damage. Making a combined 5 stack twister results in (2x Raging Storm Damage) + (3x Wicked Wind Damage).

I think he means 2*base rune damage when saying “2x Raging Storm damage” in the statement here. So, 1525% combined = 3200%, as specified on Raging Storm rune. There’s the disconnect.
If you watch the video it is more apparent.

Thanks, Lexyu, for posting your testing!

@MasterJay-1651

the meta is likely going to be click two different twisters and separately combine them out of range

Doubtful I think, would spread your damage and pixel pulls too much. The overlap / venn diagram of Wickedness would be a lot of damage though.

@MasterJay-1651

stack as much AS as you can to get the second 5 stack going to get that initial Raging storm % boost

More likely, and yes, Wicked Wind is insanely inconsistent compared to the other runes now.

The other runes that 2nd twister in the stack is a minor blip on the radar. For Wicked Wind it’s “one small step for Wizardkind.”, so, pretty friggin’ big.

Optimizing for 7 or 12 Twisters out at minimum is probably a nice advantage for WW.

After thinking more on it, i’d have preferred if they just changed the rune damage of Wicked Wind to 1150%; this could stack up to 5 times. That would have been much more simple and visible.