PCGamesN new interview w/ D2R leads

Well here we have clarification about ploot.

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Great interview!

Thank you so much VV to recognize that its not gameplay changes this game needs!
I´ll be happy to enjoy modernized Diablo when D4 comes - but D2 needs to stay D2.

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maybe its my BPD, but this brings a tear to my eye

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Yeah I’m pretty happy, I was starting to worry about some of the gameplay changes happening tbh…I wasn’t even sure I wanted a gamble refresh button, but I guess their approach of speeding up time in town is fine with me.

More demon-face-smashing time.

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Nah, it is beautiful to see the level of care the devs exhibit for D2.

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I don’t think it has to do with speed in town. I think it has to do with server performance. When you left and re-entered town it forced a refresh of all town vendors and such. We used to do it over and over and over and over and over.

Leaving town repeatedly to reset Gheed has resulted in a temp ban on the account in D2 (2000) and LoD (2001) for a while now.

The Diablo II (2000) servers will automatically restrict connections when a game client is performing unauthorized behaviors. These restrictions exist to maintain server stability and prevent exploitative behavior such as botting and hacking.

  • Repeatedly leaving an area and coming back to change shop or gambling items

So, instead of temp banning automatically to keep servers more stable, they fixed it by giving us the ability to just reset the gambler with an intentional function that is stable for the game.

I consider that a win that preserves functionality (ability to reset gambler within the same game instance), while solving a tech problem. Same big function - now in a tiny little button.

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Hey that’s actually great, hopefully I can count on Classic D2 having the gamble refresh as well if that’s the case, which had me a little worried tbh.

Then all Classic will need is the shared stash…how will I mule without it? ugh.

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utterly ridiculous they have “leaving town repeatedly to change vendor items” as a reason for a ban.

I understand why its in place, I really do. But its unacceptabler and blizzard should really strive to never have such ridiculous text litter the otherwise stunning accomplishment that is so far d2:r

edit: i am referring to classic d2lod, this would obviously not fly for d2:r

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I disagree. With the practice of gameplay you can move your inventory very quickly using the controller with the available hotkeys. It is even possible to fill the belt with the control (right stick press). It was a very wise decision to leave the inventory as in the original. List or wheel are not good.

One thing that needs to change in the controller interface is the name of the items on the ground. They appear automatically, and when you are in melee combat gets in the way. I think there should be an option for the loot to appear only if you press LB / L1.

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Maybe I misunderstand, but you don’t think the temp ban in in D2R do you? That temp ban is in the OLD game on the OLD Blizzard servers.

D2R has the refresh button instead so people don’t have to run outside town to reset it which caused server stability issues.

I was pointing out that the Gheed refresh button was put in to solve a problem with the game and is a win win for players and for Blizz.

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sorry, I worded that quite poorly. I think its still ridiuclous to have that rule on classic d2lod servers.

I like everything I read in this interview, questions were also very good.

Beta is confirmed aa multiplayer and no ploot are the best points.

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My biggest issue is the play on nostalgia, by saying “remembering childhood” crap. Sorry, my teenage years were spent on launch D2 and LoD. I was an adult when 1.10 came out, which is what this remaster is based off of. It really isn’t nostalgia when it is literally the same game I’m already playing. “Preservation of the original” really isn’t there, since it is preserving the “modernized” D2 versions as opposed to the classic (even classic non expac is affected by the latest version).

With that said, I plan to play the first ladder. Probably just a FO Sorc and Zealer, with some mules for other character equipment, then wait for the Plugy or equivalent for single player and just go with that. Unless of course, they decide to ungate the amount of ladder only content to non ladder and/or do some balance fixes to make other classes a bit more viable. I really don’t see good things with success on console version however, could be wrong, but I believe the biggest complaint on console is playing the equipment management game more than actually playing the game (this of course is if they don’t add mouse and keyboard support).

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In theory, I agree with you, but shop bots are a plague in many games, D2 included. They’re objectively unable to be a plague to that same extent now.

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I think it is ridiculous that people don’t have any warnings about the possible temp restrictions. That part bugs me. Most people don’t expect a VPN (super common now for security reasons), or a commercial ISP to cause a temp ban. A warning would be nice! I have passed that feedback on to multiple teams. Download page maybe?

I do understand why they exist though. Tech on the old Bnet and game is pretty limited. Normally game companies try to go after the cheaters/bots without inconveniencing the real players, but that is not always possible. It is not ideal, but my understanding is that the game is a mess without those restrictions (the whole list, not just Gheed). I don’t really suspect they will allocate resources to re-work old Bnet and the old game.

At least D2R recognized the issue and solved it for both players AND the game stability.

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while I generally agree with you, and even where I disagree, I’ll generally shrug my shoulders and actually trust your expertise given your forum position – you have to have a pretty good view of things to get your recognition that you have – BUUUUUUUT

i draw the line where the majority of legitimate players are hurt, where botters are not.

I think we both are more then aware that the only “botters” blizzard is stopping with their current design, is “would-be” amatuer botters. people that know what theyre doing are doing it with other-wise minimal cost to business.

Its a bad “security” implementation that SHOULD be an embarrassment… But, with d2:r on the horizon, one would agree that only a fool would invest in classic d2lod soloutions (to counter third party tools)

If I explain how I got covered in green mold and how little I can do would that help? MVPs are regular players who don’t represent Blizz in any way, or get compensated in any way. I have no power at all - not even mod power. I can only do what you can do.

This is a generic post about the MVP program overall. MVPs: Most Valuable Forum Posters - General Discussion - SC2 Forums

I was in 3 of the MVP programs before D3 got mothballed. So two now. The major one is Tech/Customer support which basically means being a volunteer information desk - which is what MVPs do in most games too. BUT because we don’t work for Blizz we are allowed to also post opinions of our own and speak as we wish within the limits for the forum rules.

I think everyone should! That is usually a clear line for most software makers. If you can’t be effective, don’t ruin it for the average player. For example captcha is easy solved by bots but not by real players so it does not help, it just annoys. Most game companies don’t use an in-game captcha system despite may forum goers suggesting it (and being shot down by other players on the forums).

There are a few factors with the old Classic Bnet and Classic D2/LoD.

  • Investment in old game and archetecture as you said.
  • The big thing to go after for bots is suing the crud out of them. But to do that you have to protect your intellectual property from the start. You can’t just start 21 years later and say “oh they stole and revered engineered our code to produce products that hurt our player base and revenue”. No. You have to do it from the start and keep it up.
  • D2 allowed mods and they never went after private servers. That right there sets precedent and would make it a hard legal battle to go after people using their code.

Blizz did not start doing that until later after WoW was released and the company grew enough to have some clout. They have won judgements against major bot makers worth millions, several times. Bot makers who impacted multiple of their games.

So there are several prongs to the approach:

  • In game mechanics that make running bots and cheats harder
  • Anti cheat software on the game servers + bans
  • Suing the companies who make the cheating software

The Hacks team who handles the bulk of that for Blizz has a tough line to walk with regard to player enjoyment, removing cheaters, and legal obligations for IP protection.

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generally, I think at this point the idea would be to drop the security methods if its been established that it isnt stopping the botters, but instead stopping casual players.

I’m well aware how you can get mvp status, i remember when blizzard introduced the system :slight_smile:
i was just saying that this is a time when I think i’ll have to stick with my own opinion, that the service itself is a lip service attempt at security that instead penalizes the same players its attempting to protect, while flimsy enough that botters literally have rules-of-conduct to avoid getting these same penalties.

at this point, it kind of feels like blizzard is well aware, but the only result that lifting the restrictions would have ultimately is higher server upkeep costs, so they kind of just disregard it :frowning:

Well you have to find some kind of common ground - it wouldnt really work to release different versions of each patches.

And while i´m with you there that i personally prefer certain aspects of the earlier versions more, I´m good with 1.14.
Considering all those wild ideas posted here, the changes from 1.07 to 1.14d are relatively small.

Problem is also that different people prefer different aspects of these older patches. It´s just impossible to satisfy everyones preferations there.

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Spending so much time having 3600+ replies is worth a MVP title to me.

And as always everybody has different opinion. I never expect MVP to think the same as me or anybody else.