But for all their claims to the contrary, no such effort has been put into nerfing/buffing other classes, like they have put into screaming the house down for Barb nerfs.
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So, so, so true.
When you look at how hot the Fun Police get for Barb nerfs, it becomes apparent that there’s more at work than some bogus desire for “balance.” This is doubly evident when you start to interrogate their idea of “balance” and why it matters so very much to them.
So, on that note, I take it back: I want a new Barb set next patch, and I want it to be so OP that it makes the Fun Police cry in their Cheerios. I’m talking a set that literally ejects itself from their monitors, takes a dump on their keyboards, and demands money so it can go buy some smokes.
Maybe Excel Handy and Crew can write their Congresspersons or something.
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Me to, I always liked the up-close in your face style of that build, kinda like the WW build without the twirl. 
I would also Like to see a buff or 2 for a couple of Monk builds too.
The Barbs aren’t the forgotten ones anymore! 
As always "Spin to Win! 
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Bloody hell, I nearly spat out my lunch
More like cartwheel in, stab you in the face, cartwheel out again
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Good luck with that. I’m looking forward to the PTR to see what GR potential people will claim that this set would clear.
Alternatively, does GR 146 already count as mid-high GR 140s?
| Rank | BattleTag | Class | GR | Time | Paragon | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 风中劲草#5653 | barbarian | 146 | 14:51 | 9477 | |
| 2 | Crucifix#3350 | barbarian | 146 | 14:56 | 10510 |
ftfy Free…the most important part.
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I’ll be there to get it nerfed. Kappa
So, you’ll use your clears here, despite not wanting them used here?
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It makes sense right ?
Same as crying to buff a low skill high reward build… oh wait
You mean Zodiac Rend? The build that requires careful cooldown management, grouping, proficiency with Spear, and extensive knowledge of rifts and Pylons? The build that forces you to learn how to build and control density, how to make smart decisions with regards to when and where to drag elites? That build?
Aside from R6 HOTA, which relies on gimmicky wall-charging, what Barb build is more difficult to play?
I’ll give you a hint: None.
Here’s a classic example of someone taking all they know from playing tons of zDPS and acquiring 10k + Paragon and calling it “easy.”
It isn’t “easy” for many players; a brief look through the guide will show you that. But a cool cat like you who drops Twitch chat “kappas” says it is, so gosh, it must be, right?
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For the era 11 worldwide solo leaderboard that includes 4 servers (US/EU/AS/China),
Darkpatator was
#1 ranked barbarian
#8 ranked demon hunter
#1 ranked monk
#12 ranked witch doctor
#3 ranked wizard
#22 ranked crusader
#23 ranked wizard
In era 12 (the current era):
#4 ranked barbarian
#2 ranked monk
Given this, I find his opinion more credible about the difficulty of specific builds across multiple classes (and within a class) than the viewpoint of someone who plays one class >85% of the time and not at an equivalent level. Also, let us not forget that he was able to see the true potential of the ww/rend build during the last PTR in contrast to many.
Builds which have tools to actually pull mobs are by definition easier.
The hardest thing is to body pull efficiently on solo, chargé relied on that, hota relied on that, ww definitely not.
Charge was aided by Wreath for aggroing to body pull, and the highest IK HOTA clears began incorporating Rage Flip a while back. IK HOTA also has Ancients to aggro mobs, even if those same Ancients often block doorways or corridors.
I can agree that strict body pulling is more difficult than using Rage Flip, but neither of the builds you mentioned are forced to do rely on the former. And due to their use of the IK set, they also don’t have to carefully manage cooldowns. The toughest part of Charge is wall-charging and setting up the RG; not easy, but pretty gimmicky a la R6.
For what it’s worth, most Diablo 3 builds aren’t overwhelmingly difficult; nothing in D3 is as skill-heavy as what I used to do playing competitive FPS games, but calling Rend a “low-skill” build doesn’t add up when compared to other Barb builds.
No one cares, and if you actually did, you would have taken Ulma’s and my advice long ago.
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The reason that I write phrases like “Given this, I find…” is simple. First, I provide evidence/data that I base my view/conclusions on. Secondly, I speak for myself. If people share my view, I write “others”, “few”, “many”, “subset”, etc…
I do not write anything on behalf of a community where there is heterogeneity in opinion because that would be audacious and disingenuous.
Anyway, dont wanna start a never ending debate, i have my opinion, you got yours and you showed alrdy many you are not open minded to anyone who doesnt share your opinion.
Give it a rest and stop fighting, blizz devs are clueless about the end game, best example is crus shield nerf which didnt changed anything, it had to be 6p multiplier and they couldnt even find out.
There will never ever be balance because they only randomly buff number and watch what happens next.
Balance is not even the main issue, the fact that everything is variance based is the thing most of ppl complain about.
Easy to see, everytime New patch comes with buffs, majority blast 1 or 2weeks and leaves the game. Buffs are like perfuming dog sh*t, at some point it doesnt make illusion anymore
If you did that, yes, it certainly would be.
But that doesn’t apply to everyone, sailor.
Thank you for speaking for yourself. May I show you into the hall where you might continue that discussion with some furniture or drapes?
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The highest charge clear ever achieved, my 135 from last era didnt featured any wall charging, just in case
Are you saying that there is no heterogeneity in the opinion of “Only buff, never nerf” even among the handful of people you explicitly thanked in their support of having a rend modifier on the lamentation belt?
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He claims that all top barb clears used wall-charging last era. It seems that he is mistaken.
Now that is 3 words you don’t see very often in the same sentence, if ever!
Now there is a statement from someone that knows the game inside and out, that you should read over and over and over again, we have been trying to tell you that same thing all along! 
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