Um no. Unadjusted leaderboard rankings are still meaningful, because they are an indicator of not only skill/experience but time spent grinding (for paragon or gear). The latter is an achievement per se and should be honored as such. However, when it comes to judging who holds more expertise on a topic like solo pushing, and therefore whose opinions hold more weight, adjusted rankings might be a more reliable metric.
Wow, you must be the most omniscient mind-reader on Earth, to be able to claim that everyone who thought those early seasons were playable and played them, were delusional. Well done!
If thatâs true, then thatâs great news. All along I had been hoping Inna would become balanced with PoJ. Now all that needs to be done is to bring LoD WoL down (and Raiment up) to that level too.
They are talking about current seson, youâre talkng about next patch. I guess they are intentionaly missing this part, so they can win the arguement.
I tried nerfed innas. I thought with the fire bonus on bracers it wouldnât be too bad but best efforts a 119 took 9 minutes. Before it was 90 seconds. Why not meet in the middle?
Youâre gonna want to stop making up concepts. Thereâs no adjusted/unadjusted leaderboards, when you use the formula of âpower of sets adjusted for paragonâ to evaluate a clear, you are removing the leaderboards altogether and looking only at the clearâs time. Itâs a good thing to do, because it at least has some basis in math, but you have to do it because, like Iâve been saying, the nonseasonal leaderboard itself is worthless, and the only thing you can do is to run numbers and estimate how well a NS clear time can hold up against the seasonal clear of someone like Wudi.
A therapist does not need omniscience to diagnose patients, just knowledge of symptoms and enough common sense to adapt said knowledge to the slightly varying circumstances of each patient. Likewise, I donât need to read your mind to see those rose-tinted glasses on your face.
There actually is, because believe it or not, not everyone possesses the skill/experience to realize the full potential of a set. After all, leaderboards are a ranking of players, not sets/builds. This is why in those adjusted clear leaderboards, you see such a wide discrepancy in tier/clear time among different players. In other words, there are simply good and bad players, and leaderboards are useful for capturing this reality.
If you actually did what you said, youâll see that OPâs wizard clears are even more impressive than those of Wudi.
Itâs also interesting that you mention Wudi, one of the biggest and most active players in those early seasons that you so desperately rail against. Arenât you also going to diagnose him as delusional and wearing ârose-tinted glassesâ, on the superficial basis that he played and enjoyed those seasons?
So do you take a NS 150 clear time, factor in paragon level to see how ahead/behind the expected time the clear is, and then rank it among other seasonal clears? If so, thatâs a lot of extrapolations, but Iâll definitely concede that itâs the closest we can come to actually evaluating a single NS clear. That said, I still donât see how that would make the nonseasonal leaderboard as a whole mean anything. OPâs opinion is given merit by the fact that he was able to clear 150 in a bit under 10 minutes, not by the fact that a sub-10 minute clear is rank 1 in NS.
lmao I suppose this one is mb, I shouldnât be hyperbolic when having a conversation with someone like you. What I meant to say, put in the most literal way, is that the changes throughout the years have made this game objectively more enjoyable for a wider audience. Wudi has played since the early seasons, but to my limited knowledge of lurking on his stream and in his Discord server, he has never in any way claimed that the earlier seasons of barely being able to speedfarm t10 were better.
So it seems that Wave of Light sanctified power is also bugged, doing much more damage than it should. So one of already the most overpowered builds in the game becomes even more OP in season. Well done Blizzard.
Before it ever got nerfed, Fire Innaâs peak was an adjusted 151.6. For Earth, itâs 150.8, and for Water, that top clear on EU is 150.5. Next best for Water is 149.4⌠thatâs still pretty good. And 1.1 tiers difference is definitely within the range of âjust got a really good riftâ, doesnât need to be Illu Nightmares or anything like that, though of course thatâs possible.
Earth and Water are both getting -7.2 tiers in this patch, which leaves them at 143.6 and 143.3, respectively.
Fire, compared to its pre-pre-nerf peak, is -7.2 (current change) and -2.9 (Bracer changing from 11x multiplier to 7x), or -9.9 total, which ought to leave it at 141.7.
So it sure looks like Fire will be more consistent and less fishy than Earth or Water (because of its single-target damage), but overall 1-2 tiers weaker.
Oh yeah, letâs nerf all the monk sets. In fact, letâs just get rid of the Monk class because people enjoy it. Might as well nerf all necro sets and wizard sets too. They are too OP and too meta. Letâs have no fun builds in the game. Everyone should just play Witch Doctor builds - but they need nerf too! Hell forbid any set can get past GR100 without being an ELITE gamer like these guys. Sounds like a solid plan, amirite?
Itâs the Blizzard way though. When a class is dominating, they nerf it under the new top tier. It makes no sense really, but theyâve done it every time. So why should this time to be different? Kinda still expecting WoL to get some change, because they always seem to want to kill the whole class for couple of season(look at Wiz) from being out from the meta.
Donât need to, they already did. Only build that can do a 150 is Twister LoD with quite high Paragons. Firebird ever since the nerf has been quite weak and no other set is nowhere near. Itâd be the worst class next season if Crusaders wouldnât be so dog. The nerfed Inna is stronger than Firebird also in non-season too and should be somewhat near to the 10MM Firebird next season.
None of that is true. Firebird has done 150 in Non-Season at pretty low time (around 10 minutes), and can probably do it around 8k paragon under the 15 minute timer. And itâs going to be stronger than Inna after the upcoming Inna nerf.