Would it still be D2?
By hearing purists, changes to 1.14(1.10 real last patch)would mean ruining what the game is, would mean that the game would lose its identity
Let’s get philosophical
if blizzard North didn’t died in 2005 and kept giving awesome content and balance to D2 making it even more the Greatest game ever, that would have ruined it, by those assumptions lol
I understand what you’re trying to get at here but honestly that’s something that nobody can answer for you. No matter how long we sit here and bounce ideas off each other, we will never really know. It’s 50% they would’ve messed up or 50% they would’ve done well. We don’t know what they would’ve done, all I know for 100% is that if they continued to ban bots and had more resources on keeping the game bot free. The game would still be thriving today with 0 updates. As people like to mention MODS keeping the game alive, I’m sure that the only reason people play these trash mods is because the infested bs on bnet. That’s my take on that situation, it would’ve been awesome to see what ideas they had or what they would’ve done honestly.
Right Let’s me add something to put better focus on the question, assume the content they would have added was good, would it have ruined D2?
No because at the time any change they made would’ve been welcome by the community and would’ve changed the Meta into something different. Nobody from the no change crowd would disagree with that, the reason behind the don’t change anything that’s not broken is because of the constant and never ending examples of failed updates on different games. You can compare the two and brainstorm what would’ve happened if that change were to be added to Diablo 2. At the time, when nobody knew any of the changes and what it would’ve done to the game, then yes the changes would’ve been welcome. We have seen what these changes do, example : d3. If blizzard north did it before anyone else, it would’ve been a success because of the previous success they had. Now nobody wants anything changed because we know how bad they will botch it.
That’s like asking if your life would have been better with Becky,? or Jane? or Sarah?
No its not the question, read properly please
the question is, If youd been with Becky and were a happy couple, would it have ruined your life
like that it sounds obvious and doesnt make sense to ask that question, but its exactly the point
who knows? more than likely it would have ended in the same fate as wow becoming ever more stuffed with QoL features and ruined over the years.
so in a way we are extremely lucky Blizzard North was gone at some point and they didnt add major content after that. This is what preserved the game and elevates it above all those garbage fastfood titles from today.
You just can’t help yourself, can you?
yes it would have been a great game still and better than it is now. David Brevik and the Schaefers were working on another D2 expansion which most likely would have been amazing.
Uber Tristram is alright, but it does feel “moddy”. Yeah let’s recycle Tristram again and toss in each prime evil, now let’s copy paste andariel and rename her lilith. Let’s throw duriel into the canon of the magi, etc.
I don’t really see how the above is any different than anything VV could do. They could easily slap together some new “end game” activity the exact same way (not saying I’d want this).
So this uber tristram stuff was added in 2010 by some random guy who had nothing to do with Blizzard North. This was basically an official “mod”.
anything could of happened who knows… at first brevik wanted D1 to be a turn based game… a couple people on the team said they thought real time would be better… he was 100% against going real time untill he sat down and played the game that way and he had the stones to admit someone approved upon his idea and he knew it was better… mad respect to him for that most people egos wouldnt let them make the genius decision
That story is blatantly false and modified to fit your narrative
He was against it because he didn’t wanted to scrap all the work he already had put in turn base and he thought it was too complicated to do with the budget and time they had to release the game… he took his own time on the weekend to turn the game into real time
The moral of this story, you cannot improve things with status quo and fear of change
well this isnt accurate either.
It wasnt it wouldnt fit in the budget, they under budgeted the project from the start, kinda screwing themselves.
After Blizz and a few people in the condor office, thought the idea had merits, brevik talked to blizzard, saying if they wanted them to go forward with modifying the game to instant action instead of turn based action, they would need an other mile stone payment.
Blizz agreed to the extra funds and Brevik, made the changes to implement instant action in like 25-35 minutes in his office.
first off this story is 100% true seen the interview buddy so dont care what u or any1 else has to say… ur a nutty person str8 up… why they let u on the forums no idea… look at what i said and tell me what narrative ur talking about… stop this lunatic from posting blizzard dudes annoying
all i keep hearing is loud purists yet u make a dang thread everyday asking for changes shutup alrdy str8 up
That’s exactly what I said, because he finally got the budget doesn’t means it wasn’t something that held him in his mind from doing it
He said it in the gdq talk “we weren’t great businessmen” meaning that asking for more budget wasn’t something very pleasant for him
It’s like asking somebody to give you his Ferrari, it’s unpleasant and you expect a no that why people don’t do it, that part of why he was not in favour of keeping turn base
after he played it in real time he knew he made the right choice nothing i said was false
Who is “asking” for changes
I’m proposing possible changes
There is a strong difference between suggesting and demanding
improvementists ask for changes
Purists demand no changes
lolol im not asking for changes im proposing changes lmao something wrong with this dude clearly im out
That would be Jenny, Kim or Eli and Illana…
With Jenny there would proabaly have been 3 more kids
Kim was a crazy little minx…less kids more…!!!
Eli and Illana…ahhhhhhhh
He didnt not want to impliment it because of money tho. As you stated.
That wasnt his reason. He liked turn based games, still does.
He used changing the game as an opportunity to pay his employees.