You plooters keep contradicting yourselves and changing the subject so fast I grow tired of it. Troll the rest of the posters if you like but I’m done until you have thought the idea through and answered the legit questions asked.
Hahaha sure sure. Don’t worry about all your tears, frustration is a common thing at your age. What is not normal is the lack of grey mass in your head that allow you to understand that the game is this way and the one who is whiner is just you and a bunch of people who are trying to change the game. Don’t worry tho, you still got maincraft to play with your little friends. Good luck kid.
1 out of 8 is more than 8 possibilites of nothing. The fact that you have the chance to see it and try to catch it, doesn’t mean you get it at all. Atleast ploot in longterm is fair enough that everyone get at some point said loot.
That being said i still can’t get behind the general idea of people being against it, because D2 have one of the best Lobby-Systems introduced, so i’d argue that would be rather easy for VV to implement that you have BOTH FFA and ploot, and in that way everyone can be happy. People who enjoy FFA can simply create FFA Lobbies and folks who prefer Ploot…well creat ploot lobbies. It’s quite easy as that.
Except you are one of the folks who try to force their playstyles to others or are one of the scammers / botters who want to steal all loot away.
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I love when people ignore the answers they claim they wanted. Doesn’t seem dishonest at all.
Indeed.
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All I hear is “WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.”
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Not only that, it also kinda drags the focus away from the gameplay, and stop right before killing bosses.
Well maybe than you should close your mouth so you don’t hear yourself and focus on the topic instead.
So you think it’s good gameplay to stop killing bosses when they’re low health and prepare to spam click the ground?
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Thanks old man. And I totally understand all the crying. It helps with the dry eyes at your age. And I get all the whining too since you often see old folks babbling non sense non stop. Good luck out there old fart. Don’t forget your cane (no pun intended) 
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Here we go round the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush … 
I read through about half of the replies so I may have missed something.
Ploot is FFA loot only the items dropped are allocated so that only the winner of the roll can pick it up for a few seconds before becoming fully FFA.
I don’t know if individual drops (everyone gets the same drops that only that player can see and pick up) would have an effect on the trade market. Part of me says yes, the other part thinks 8 people running solo would equate to 8 people groups but getting solo drops.
Either way, this is a huge change in the way the game is played and I would completely understand if people didn’t want it implemented.
I was against PLoot in D2R. And I changed my mind. I am now against PLoot in every game.
It just breeds a terrible player community.
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Maybe i did understand the qouted “Argument” wrong, but for me it didn’t sound like he/she meant it in a positive light, that’s why i added another negative aspect to it. If it did come off wrong, than i’m sorry.
The way i look at it is quite simply. I love OG D2 since back than because for it’s time it had alot of options and choices of how people are able to play it. SP, Lan, MP, Soft,- and Hardcore, and from a “remastered” i kinda expected that it would even enhance on that, not limit. And now we are here - arguing (not even arguing, this feels more like a war) over a mere optional feature, which - if implemented correctly, wouldn’t effect anyone of the FFA looters… only some really radical purists which want to force their playstyle on others, or folks who want abuse FFA with botting software and such. And Blizzard cutting TCP/IP (PC) and Lobbies from Consonles feel more like it’s not as problematic here. Put yeah okay i get it, should the purists keep their OG Experience of OG Diablo 2 of ninjalooting everything away from others while stash them in shared stash… which also is OG experience at it’s finest.
Yeah kinda, but this days for Ploot alot of devs also adjust the the droprate of it or better say the overall amount, so it feels more selffound. Works out for some games, but i find atleast that approach not fitting for a game like D2 which have a huge emphasis on trading and double or even more the loot would have a huge influx of the eco.
I’m pretty much against that, but i’m all up for Ploot (again as a optional feature… not replacing FFA) which (randomly) assaign loot.
So funny. Very obvious the lack of a brain. Careful with the saliva coming of the mouth, tell your mommy to give you a napkin or something to clean up. Won’t be answering you anymore, doesn’t worth my time.
Then what’re you attacking me for? I’m in favor of a personal loot option.
I didn’t “attack” your for your opinion, i simply found your way to argue with this “all i hear is waaaahhh” not really helpfull.
Oh, I see. But you found the other guy’s “I’m leaving 'cause reasons, you guys are trolls” post helpful, did you?
Ploot isn’t a drop rate increase. A drop rate increase would be a different fight that we can all fight together when the day comes.
So? It’s the way it works in FFA. You can pick up loot of any kill regardless of party. There is no problem using that comparison baseline to allocate loot in ploot.
So what is your point?
I think you also need to do some work on the learning front:
Gallerani: […] From there we’ll see what the community wants. We don’t really make a boxed product anymore, where we give it to you and we’re done with it. It’s a live game, a live service. We’ll continue to have that relationship between us and the community as they start playing it.
GamesBeat: Is new content on the table, like an Act VI? Is that a possibility?
Gallerani: I will never deny it. It’s not on the table right now. But it’s not off the table either. Like I said, we’re focused on getting that authentic, nostalgic experience right. Even smaller things, like retuning how the blizzard works, or maybe making a build that’s not a Hammerdin, new runewords, new items, those are all really exciting things, but we want to make sure we stick the landing first. As long as the community says, “Yeah, you did good,” then we can have the next discussion.
They added it so that the player didnt have the feeling to be able to run away from everything.
It is explained here:
Why? You can still play FFA mode. So you are saying you would change your entire approach to the game because of a system you are not even playing?
Seems kinda irrational.
So your “arguments” against ploot are:
- if something good drops, i have a fair chance to get it, as opposed to: everytime something drops, i have to frantically click to have a chance that if it is something good it will end up in my inventory. 2 points for effort. 0 points for logic
- ploot would flood the economy… yeah, we never heard that one before… yawn
Yes. And i agree that it is not ideal. But you also have to agree that the exact same is also possible in FFA mode. With the slight difference that in FFA mode you can actually take away 8/8 of the loot from the party, while in ploot you can only take 1/8.
Is it ideal? No. Is it better? Yes, definitely.
No, that is not how it works.
Linking ploot to party-membership is open for griefing. People could just leave their party shortly before a boss kill and take the killing blow to receive all 8/8 of the loot.
That is why we decided to take the example of FFA loot to make the loot allocation not take party into account.
It is an edge case anyway and i’d rather fix the “player takes 8/8 of all the loot and then leaves the game” case than to fix the “some guy runs behind the party for the entire game without them not declaring hostility to them and is taking 1/8 of the loot” case.
No, we dont go back to this, because you already got your logical response.
And you underestimate that solo MF will still be the main way to get equipment.
Again: we are not asking for an efficient way to farm items. We are asking for an enjoyable and cooperative experience.
Nope, he didnt and we have told you several times already. So many times that Rob himself has made it clear that the discussion will be taken after the 23rd.
Stop spreading false information.
Access/Chance does not mean that they get it.
You are arguing as if all 8 players get that precious item. They are not. It takes them 8x more runs to get that item for every player in both cases. (or even more)
Your perception of the loots in FFA is misguided. Seeing != picking up.
It is. But you seem to struggle with it.
I think LightningYu mistook Orrions “crybaby”-post for an anti-ploot post.
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