Honest Question for Ploot Advocates

[blash-1917]

@Reason-2425

But if ploot is introduced and “monster drops aren’t increased” then what’s the point in having it?

We are not asking for increased drop rates.
Ploot is not about efficiency.
It is about a cooperative enjoyable mode to find likeminded players.

@Reason-2425

It’s still going to be a lottery over whether or not you’ll get gear.

D2 is already a lottery whether or not you’ll get gear. As a matter of fact you can be almost certain that you will not get gear in 8ppl games, because these games are not made to farm gear, they are made to get exp.

@Reason-2425

But you won’t have any control over it.

You do not have control over it in FFA as well.
In FFA 8 players have control over it. Each of the 1/8 of the control.
So you end up with controlling 1/8 of the loot.
You’ll figure out the rest.

@Reason-2425

And how do you imagine it being implemented too? There’s a whole host of problems here that will make people game it or just get in the way of legitimate play.

@Shadout-2849

All loot generation remain 100% unchanged. Including MF etc.
Items drop. Exact same items that would drop in FFA also drops here.

/roll 1-X, where X is players nearby (for example within XP range).
Some number is rolled.
The item drops on the ground. ALL players can see the item.
Only one person can loot it (the winner of the roll). For others, the item text/icon is greyed out to signify they can’t.
If the winner of the item picks it up, our example ends there.
If the winner does not pick up the item within X seconds, OR move away from the area where the item dropped (including leaving the game of course), the item turns FFA. It stops being greyed out for everyone else and they can all attempt to pick it up first as with FFA.

The end.

@Reason-2425

Say there’s a delay on pickup, for example. Are we going to have to stand around for 10 seconds to pickup something that nobody else wants?

In my mind it should be a setting on game creation (either continous scale from 0-10 seconds or some choices like 0.1, 1, 2, 4, 6, 10). You can filter games by the mode and settings your prefer:

• cows FFA, hell, SC, Ladder
• baal ploot - 2 seconds, nightmare, HC, NL
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