diablo 4 will end up failing sad I was hopeing for another diablo 2 game, No one wants, Greater rifts or Mythic dungeons in world of Warcraft what killed the game for me was mythic dungeons only the hard core players do. thank you every much. get rid of it . only put easy normal hard as difficulties if u want more then 1% of hardcore players to love this game I would suggest doing this or the game will loose a lot of its playerbase . I loved diablo 2 when I was a teen. because I came home from school . just farmed bhaal . over n over n over. That’s what diablo was about . Killing the bosses over n over. to find a soJ. a Rare item with no random stats . we want Super rare low drop rate items with NO RNG. just low chances of drop . we want No mythic or greater rifts. I won’t be playing diablo 4 of this happens.
Can you please format using more appropriate literacy - if English is not your first language I suggest placing your forum post into microsoft word or using google drives word first and using the auto-correct feature.
I also suggest googling “period” or “full stop” to understand the function of this form of punctuation to build a sentence that is understandable.
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Mythic dungeons actually drastically increased the player base and brought new players into Legion. This was because of the idea of not having to organise a raid for a competitive feature allowed a lot of people to compete at a lower level while providing them with worthwhile or at least the appearance of worthwhile rewards.
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Greater rifts were a short term fix for Diablo 3’s lacking end game, and introduced legendary gems - that’s not to say I think running Baal over and over is any more meaningful. I’m pretty sure 95% of the Diablo 3 players who have played have run greater rifts, and often repeatedly (the other 5% quit playing) as they’re not really an elitist hardcore activity. I personally have no problems with the idea of the keystone dungeons they’re looking at for Diablo 4, although they should be only 10% of the end game activities.
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Lower drops and reducing RNG is something that will greatly improve Diablo 4 as the state they’re in now with Diablo 3 is a loot fest and an over-compromise to what items were in Vanilla Diablo 3. Hopefully the developers will learn that rare and other items still want to be meaningful, and that over the top modifiers to support crazy meta builds isn’t what people want.
mythics dungeons is not what increased the playerbase but only the current playerbase . Compare vanilla . u can make worthwhile rewards. by not increasing a super hard dungeon so only certain people are allowed to get rewarded . in diablo 2. everyone was more equal in terms of not having these rifts/mythic buffs the only thing that did come close was the cow level as I can remember that had some type of attributes but they where not to observed . trying to base things based on its current state then the state before , trust me the state before was in a much better well being then it has ever been now, one of the reasons why classic wow is better then Current wow. the same as diablo 2 is better then 3 .
Nope. It is a bad design.
Also, reaching GR100~GR110 is pretty much attainable for everyone, even if you are a casual player.
I bet a lot of the current players wouldn’t like it at all but im sure diablo 2 at its highest peak in terms of playerbase had way more then diablo 3 did. so saying it was a bad design wouldn’t apply , maybe to just the people who only play diablo 3 currently perhaps . I would like to see some raw data of d2 and d3 playerbase as a longevity in 2 years life time , same gos for vanilla wow vs current wow . what it really boils down is a lot of people and I don’t mean current players Do not like Rifts or endless dungeons . of progression they want Fixed and grindy enjoyable game with interaction and pvp , with a the cabilities of Farming the " max drop rate " like example. magic find in diablo 2 was great. the bosses where not hard but if u wanted to make them hard u go Magic find , and you become weaker . but u get better drops . and so on. Making it u must have the BIS gear in the game to go to GR 110 + is kinda lame and I loved pvping with Claw gloves with amazon in d2 
those where the days where u could pvp with a low level item.
I had played D2 since it was launched and for 10 years+. I think people like you should stop assuming that people who like D3 never played D2.
In case you don’t know, D3 Classic was exactly like what D2 endgame is in the past. Farming the same areas and bosses over and over for the loot until the community get sick of it and demand Blizzard to add to a different endgame, and there is where the Rift and GR came.
My MF Sorc didn’t became weaker as she still curbstomp Diablo and Baal fast. Diablo 2 bosses and enemies were so weak that even MF build can easily destroy them without losing much time.
looks like we will see what the end result will be , im sure everyone will get hyped about diablo 4 . play it and find out its not for them because of it .I know that blizzard has been making bad choices for years now . lets make blizzard great again and go back to what it use to be .
Considering that Blizzard didn’t plan to remove GR and Mythic Dungeon from those games until now, and they are also planning to add GR/Mythic equivalent in D4 which known as Key Dungeon, I guess we don’t really have to wait to see the end result.
yes I know this. that’s why we’ll see how great the game will be I have a feeling it might not be as good as people where hopeing, I loved diablo 1 and 2. … 3 fell So far apart in everything they did . it should be nothing like it. Wow. Fell apart with there Mythics . Look at vanilla wow . They’ve had more players playing that . then current wow sadly . I loved vanilla wow . but im getting older don’t have time for the grind . but I can tell you for a fact vanilla even tho its grindy is 10000000% times better then current wow is now, I can guarantee if wow did the same rule set as Vanilla wow. in a NEW MMO. or XP . it would blow up
Considering that several hundred thousand players play each season - your claims that it doesn’t work are insubstantial.
They don’t work FOR YOU. That doesn’t mean everyone else hates them.
I personally think that rifts are one of the best additions to d3. And I hope they will keep developing this idea in the future.
see that’s the thing. what’s Ruining blizzard They do work for the people. And the issue is white knights. are getting babyd . and they are the only ones giving bad feedback . this needs to stop if blizzard wants a future , blizzard is sure not what it use to be , there recent changes are very poor .
Learn to write. I understood about 10% of your post and I will not waste my time decyphering the rest
to me it sounds like argument is valid Regardless of my spelling.
Just another D2 fanboy complaining about D3. Turn that record over already and play another song. 
I mean they could make Diablo Mobile see how that turns out best idea from blizzard yet besides the idea from rifts and mythic dungeons
You can’t compare Vanilla, Warlords of Dreanor didn’t come before it, and everyone could pretty much do mythic +, that was it’s advantage over raids / raid timing.
You’re now in BFA, and the decline in player base has very little to do with Mythic +. Legion which introduced Mythic + was a definite success.
Diablo 2 is better than Diablo 3 because of character depth, customisation, the feeling of playing an actual narrative style, and the fact the itemisation wasn’t stuffed. Running Baal over and over was not compelling game play, just look at the way most streamers play Diablo 2.
To me it sounds like I didn’t understand your argument, so it may as well not have existed.
I agree diablo 2 has some faults. but Putting greater rifts. Mythic dungeons won’t fix that issue for endgame. something else has to replace endgame progression. if Mythic dungeons where so great people would love current Wow now instead of old school wow. and with greater rifts. comeing from POE. Are just hardcore players . they need to come with a idea that isn’t one of these two choices. . i haven’t played much of recent diablo 2. but i did love the fact when i played it " this was before Runewards came out " Endgame was more about pvp . Tradeing. and farming bosses for SOJS . it felt Amazeing when soj Droped. stratification is key. farming a boss for an hour to get 1 soj. so u can trade enough to go PVP . with a windforce was Amazeing ." Endless progression = less satisfaction " , I hated poe added greater rifts . just cause I could never feel like I could never feel 100% Sisified even if I got the items I wanted . cause there was always harder
So you are sayin you hate everything i love and you love everything i hate.
I love mythics and greaters. I hate doing the same thing over and over again.
Mythics have affixes that change every week which gives you new experience i love that. Greaters are full random which is not my favorite because i liked mythics better but still it gives new experience and i have to think about the pixels and calculate. Thats what most people want. You cant just go around and say “no one wants this” look at how many players are playing the seasons in diablo. Also tons of players are doing dungeons not for loot but for the fun and for raider io scores. If it wasnt fun no1 would grind raider io.
I could see why some people might think that’s appealing because they want something to work for. but i’d rather have the end game more pvp ordinated then pve. with PVE endgame , endless progression needs endless rewards. . with endgame pvp . doesn’t have to be that way . . satisfaction from being better then other players is much better feeling . then " look at me soloing mythics . to show off to no one cause about the game . theres so many ways of doing this. to have endgame without making it Endless in terms of never feeling complete and always needing something better why make it , Feeling complete by beating some one with your own skills in pvp or another factor then PVE . Cool pvp rewards. leaderboards . could do the same thing. but saying you love certain factors is why your playing now. but the I can tell you 100% of the players who played POE . think Diablo has failed them and honeslty they have .