I know this is hard to accept, but anyone who disagrees with widescreen & moon view zoom being an issue in d2 pvp, has absolutely no idea what they are talking about at all.
Seriously, if you pvped in d2 as much as you seem to believe you did, you would immediately recognize why this will be a game breaking issue that will ruin some of the best pvp to date that was ever released on a video game.
I’ve already given my 2 cents worth on this subject in multiple other threads, including DHA’s original. So in this thread, this is all that needs to be said.
100% agree here. If you want to make a proper remaster, don’t break the game! It is ridiculous, that we have to say this.
Enjoy your ultrawide screen in other games. D2 is just not made for this. It might be unfortunate for your immersion, but you can’t be serious about breaking the game, just to have a nicer view. These posts are so egoistic. Even more so, when people say “go play D2 Vanilla” or “no UW support, only because of a small fraction of people”…
These people are the reason, that D2 is still alive and hence the reason, why there is even a remaster! If noone played D2, then Blizzard would not have guessed, that D2R is worth the time. Guess why there is no D1:Resurrected ?!
Exactly this. Enjoy your nice view, but don’t cheat on others with it.
Wtf? So ignorant. The ultrawide is clearly breaking game mechanics, this has nothing to do with esports.
4:3 is not the standard though… widescreens are nowadays and you can get them for very little money. If you have a PC, that can run D2R, you have a widescreen.
Ultra widescreens in contrast cost a few hundred € at least. Cmon, every child sees that.
I see the issue but i also see the exact same issue on 16:9 aspect ratio aswell. The whole topic is based on that only Ultrawide is an issue, while 16:9 already is and none of them is authentic either.
I highly suggest those who want to do it the old fashion way to whisper each other and turn off Resurrected Mode and have it more or less an “unspoken rule of honor” during PvP.
The other kind of “PvP” where a random player joins and turns it on in a Baal Run Game wont exist for the majority because people will just quit and complain when they get to experience that, if they have not back in the day. It will be much more likely that PvP gets removed then, a few topics about “Moon View” will not stand against those thousand threads of people complaining that general PvP is available for every lobby.
Gaming today and Gaming from 20 years ago are 2 different pairs of shoes. I remember some words from an older ex blizz dev about griefing and disrupting mechanics and the bigger voice on forums about his opinion was more like “Thank god he’s gone”.
The same has happened to WoW, it has had one of the best PvP Experiences and now Retail doesnt even have PvP Servers anymore… that is the direction where Games are going.
While i do understand that theres an Audience for D2 PvP, i would not want a change in my Experience because of them. I want to play D2 because the Gameplayloop and overall the Items are much more satisfying than D3 and possibilitys are much better, lets not mention to have Mercs in Multiplayer and all the other Details.
What ive seen from D2 Resurrected made me Preorder it and hence why im here, if the Game wouldnt look at is currently is, i wouldve def. not purchased it after WC3 Refunded, believe me that.
I look forward to reading this in it’s entirety when I get home from work.
I’m worried about both PvP and PvE. I can tell this thread ought to be bookmarked and stickied as resolution is a major concern. Hopefully VV has something up their sleeves similar to what I and many others have suggested.
That (good manner) doesn’t work though, if nobody can see, wether you do it or not.
So you know, what is about to happen, when this game hypes again? I doubt it. PvP is going to be a thing for a lot more people again, especially because there are noobs again, so it is fun, to just do some PvP without getting slaughtered in 1/2 a second.
Which is why you can’t enforce an old game to work properly with modern hardware like an ultra widescreen. It is just not made for that.
Complete non sense. D4 is going to have PvP as a core part of the game. New World is an RPG mainly build around PvP. What are you even talking about? The only reason why WoW and D3 don’t have that, is because these games are patched to death. They are slowly dying.
Yes, because you are egoistic. You will play D2R not even 1/1000 of the time, these people do. Still you are here, trying enforce your will on this game.
It’s not much different than the scrolling feature of a Maphack from D2. It doesn’t matter what Blizzard does.
It’s like making guns illegal. It will only take the guns out of the hands of the honest citizens while the criminals can rob people without fear of being shot since the criminals will always have guns.
The solution: Get your own ultra-wide or deal with the disadvantage. I doubt Blizzard is going to restrict people who have ultra-wide screens. Because why would we want to play a game on our ultra-wide screens when that game doesn’t support it? A lot of people would quit since when they purchased the game it supported ultra-wide screens.
Yeah, you are right, cheating is not much different than playing legit… How could I forget? Please share more of your wisdom with me…
Sure… only that you don’t freaking need guns in almost every other country than yours. Omg all this wisdom…
So much wisdom. Thank you. Really intelligent.
Such a clever question! Maybe because people want to play the freaking game?
Question: Why would I want to buy a game, that has been promised to have no changes in fundamental game mechanics, but in fact it’s completely broken, because some people want to have a nicer view?
You must be bored, to chase through all threads and not contribute to any discussion, but always post some complete non sense.
Said the guy, who told millions of people, to just “get an ultra widescreen” or to deal with the disadvantage, right after he said, that honest citizens need guns. Omg, the stupidity endless.
You are enforcing your will, i dont. I take the product as it is and i enjoy what i see. Dont put the it the other way around, thank you.
And saying that “there is noobs again so it is fun” and “dont get slaughtered in 1/2 second” … like do you even notice these extremely high contradictions?
Also like i said, there are poor Countrys and yes they do run 4:3 even 5:4 Screens, so not EVERYONE has it. Imagine ive used one CRT till 2015 for Competition because 16:9 Screens were awfully slow in Refreshrates and super blurry back then.
Either way, if people want the old experience and old graphics = old game, thank you.
Wc3 Community has gone that way too as the Remake didnt fullfill their experience, unfortunate Ladder wasnt added either.
About New World, you know that they have PvP Scaling right? That thing where people said it was an awful Experience.
I gave my opinion. I’m not trying to pick apart every single persons post who disagrees with my opinion, like you. That’s a TROLL. Yep, says me. I’ll be laughing on my ultra-wide and I’ll wave to you. But you aren’t going to be able to see me…
No, I just want a working game. You want to break it and make it unfair. No matter, what Blizzard is currently planning. That doesn’t change, that it gives some players huge disadvantages.
I will explain it in simplest terms for you:
I am a Noob in D2 PvP
If I now join PvP in Vanilla D2, I get destroyed in half a second
If I join PvP in D2R, I will have fun, because there are noobs again
Ok, so let’s talk about numbers. I bet my a**, that more than 99.99% of the D2R players have a widescreen or ultra widescreen. If you can’t efford a widescreen, you can’t efford a PC, that runs D2R.
It’s 2021, I bet you have noticed. The fact, that screens were slow back than has nothing to do with today’s situation of screen distribution.
Nobody wants 25 fps, thank you.
WC3 was a complete disaster, EXACTLY because Blizzard did not care for details like a ladder, mods, an old launcher and so on.
What the hell does that have to do with all of this? You said, future games will have no PvP.
No, you posted trash, like “It’s not much different than the scrolling feature of a Maphack from D2.”. You compare legit problems in D2R with cheating in D2. You say, citizens should wear guns and say “Get your own ultra-wide or deal with the disadvantage.”. That’s not an opinion, but an ignorant statement.
If the devs would deal with all of the problems in D2R like that, the game would be complete trash.
You’re still talking? LOL! This feels just like D2 chat…
Everything you say is your opinion as well. You pick apart everyone’s posts and throw insults at them. I’ll bet you’re a real winner in life. I’ve had enough fun here.
Maybe I am an absolute loser in life, maybe not, it doesn’t matter. You being ignorant does matter, because I don’t want to be trolled by egoistic people like you ingame (or irl).
This is gullably naive & hopeful at best. No offense but you strike me as the type who has never seriously been a part of a competitive scene. People cheat man. When they know they can get away with it, they cheat and they lie about things.
This is why for two decades worth of D2 pvp, we have to take screenshots or record things during even GM pvp matches, to make sure people aren’t janking the rules.
I’m calling it right now, this is what will happen:
Player (A): Ok let’s agree to only use 4:3 for GM.
Player (B) OK sure.
Match starts. Player (B) is on the losing end.
Match feels normal to Player (A) until suddenly Player (B) lands a 1-hit KO Blizzard on Player (A) from 4 screens away.
Player (A): Hey, you have moon view turned on.
Player (B): Nope, it was a name lock.
Player (A): That’s impossible because I was reproaching you from 7 or 8 screens out which means your name lock would have been dead.
Player (B): Show screen record or it didn’t happen kid.
^ So on and so forth, and this will be a recurring problem that will force people to have to screen record or stream to be able to prove if someone is abusing some declared ruling of target range or moon view casting. First of all, this is a ridiculously impractical requirement to be able to do GM rules. And secondly, players who are very savvy won’t be so easy to prove if they are cheating with this at all. They’d be smart enough to only use it during situations where it would be virtually impossible to prove that they were cheating.
I know it’s hard for you believe this, but the pvp in Diablo 2 Resurrected will be botched if they do not tend to this issue.
WAIT - they’re actually going ahead with widescreen support? As someone who likes PVPing - Wow that might actually get me to refund. I never thought they’d cross that line but just wow. Its completely gamebreaking for both PVM and PVP - the aggro radius for the monsters is ridiculously small and linked to the screen resolution.
You being ignorant does matter, because I don’t want to be trolled by egoistic people like you ingame (or irl).