From the Barb Community: DO NOT NERF REND

[MicroRNA-1507]

Using Free’s numbers simplified:

	Average #1 (NS America/EU/Asia)	Notes
DH	138
WD	140
Wiz	142	Being nerfed
Nec	141	Being Nerfed
Crusader	137
Monk	133
2.6.6 Barbarian	133
PTR Barbarian	140
2.6.7 Barb @ 200%	≥140
2.6.7 Barb @ 100%	≥137
2.6.7 Barb @ 0%	≥133

The question really is what this “≥” ultimately means and the magnitude of the wizard and necromancers nerfs.

If the live non-season top clear is 3-5 GRs higher than the top PTR non-season clear (I think there has never been an exception to this rule), then rend @ 100% makes ww/rend barb the #1 build.

@Jako-1213

darkpotato pushed WhirlRend pretty high. He got an A ranked rift, maybe almost S ranked rift. Dude had 150 Augments and 10,500 Paragon. WhirlRend was PUSHED ON PTR. We know its potential. Add ~2 GRs because of fluctuation and RNG and potential for more damage.

You can’t go around claiming WhirlRend can do 145-147 when a 10k paragon player PUSHED IT AND MAXED AT 140.

@Jako and @Laevathein,

You should check out:

Message from the guy who cleared 140 on PTR

So, I have been silent for a moment here, watching everyone using my own words to justify his own point, quoting me, making me say things I didn’t say. At some point, this is pissing me off. I will just go point by point (sorry in advance, my english isn’t perfect). People are saying my rift was perfect and that I was lying about the fact that ww could do 144/5. Facts : this wood is straightline layout, with sewer layout at the start. Conduit came very late. Best mobtype ? Yes. What could e…

Note added: I see Free quotes Ulmaguest but not the thread that darkpatator’s OP with a different view from the person who actually soloed in non-season PTR GR 140. Also, he has now included his new table where he has assumed that 140 is the maximum potential of ww/rend build, a controversial position.