Forum Feature Changes: Ignore and Trust Level Groups

It’s fascinating that everyone here doesn’t see the elephant in the room.

Social Credit Scoring.

It’s like you’re all willingly prepared for real world 1984 or communist control.

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This is not my experience.

Did you actually get suspended though? That is more than just flags.

You’re probably right… you normally are for those things. Here are some data:

Region TL 0 TL 1 TL 2 TL 3 Total TL 3/Total 0.1% of Total
EU French 1 399 361 54 2 1 816 0.110% 1.8
EU English 3 425 609 66 3 4 103 0.073% 4.1
US English 17 707 7 239 1304 23 26 273 0.088% 26.2

I didn’t bother posting the number of TL 4s… those probably aren’t included in the computations. So yeah… if Blizzard is aiming for 0.1% of the total membership on the forums… they’re pretty close. That type of approach may work well when you have 20K, 40K or more members… I’m not so sure it works (or makes sense) when the numbers are much smaller.

Looking at the history of TL 3s on EU French… we were once five TL 3s, for about a week, at the beginning of February. Then 4. Then 3. Then 2. Then 1. We’re now back to 2.

The one thing I am happy with… the criteria for maintaining the TL 3 level are (or appear to be) completely under my control. As far as I can tell… all I need to do is:

  • read enough posts… often enough (whatever that is) and,
  • give enough likes to keep the « likes/day » criteria happy.

During the first week or so of the new forums I had a post flagged. I received a system notification that flags had been received and would be reviewed by a GM. I received no account penalty which, I presumed, meant the flags had been investigated and not upheld.

Months afterwards, I obtained TL3 as a result of fulfilling the stated criteria in the stickied thread, i.e. days visited in rolling 100 days, topics / threads read, likes given, likes received.

I maintained TL3 for a number of months. The forum software was upgraded and without any system notifications I was downgraded to TL2, i.e. this appeared to be due to the software upgrade, not an infraction. Upon filing GM tickets, I was not given a reason why.

Months after that I made a daft pun based on two words being synonyms. I received a 24 hour holiday which means that regardless of why I lost TL3 during the forum upgrade, I won’t ever be regaining it.

It’s fine that the holiday caused a permanent loss of the ability to ever have TL3 again (even though the pun seemed incredibly innocuous) but this doesn’t alter the underlying issue that I initially lost TL3 due to the software upgrade, at a time where I had 100% participation, met all the criteria, had no upheld flags and no account penalties.

This is why I said it’s moot.

Well, I got an answer from a GM…

The requirements for trust levels varies from game to game for example for WoW forums its character specific. now from what I am allowed say is that the likes target of sent and recived total does not go down so once that is reached it remains as achieved, BUT there is daily likes sent received that needs to be maintained and this is what caused you fall.

…which is of absolutely no use in terms of clarifying the requirements.

Okay, so there’s a static limit for likes given and received and once that has been achieved, that’s permanent. However, there’s also clearly a requirement for ongoing giving / receiving of likes, which they refuse to give the number and periodicity of.

So…
If I don’t issue enough ongoing likes, I’ll lose TL3.
If I give likes to a random post every day, I’ll maintain TL3.
Apparently, I’m more trustworthy if I just randomly like stuff. :roll_eyes:

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