You really think that making a game to trade 1 item is more efficient than being able to trade 100 items at a time and have notification every time someone posts on your thread?
jeeze…yeah I think I know who barely played D2.
As i said the AH did not work out so well for d3 did it.
We’re not talking about D3 here.
Trading on discord and jsp are more efficient means of trading, this is an objective fact. I’ve done both over the course of 20 years, it’s not even an argument, it saves hours upon hours of time, and you can trade hundreds of items a day.
i used jsp for years and never spent a single cent on it, but i do understand that is it kept free by the people who do “buy” the gold.
i wish there was some way to use a trade site like POE or POD has, in a way that donest support people spending irl money. especially one that didnt allow issues on start of ladder
making an official trade site thats a lot of work though, but hey if 1 person can do it, i dont see why blizzard cant… if not i’ll likely use jsp again for the harder to find trades, although i generally trade items in game, if that fails for a few days i dont mind using fg… althoiuygh only i have no idea how much i have i haven’t used that site at least since i swapped to path of diablo around 2-3 years ago.
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Lol what? If you have 20 items to sell at once, you are really not efficient trader, or you are bot running 24/7.
Not only i will finish my trade in game before you even finish typing your post, i could even trade more in that time and its instantly. And its not just that, i keep finding items while you waste your time to type the trade topic with 20 items.
Then you have to wait for offer, then you have to contact buyer. It just add several more steps to trading.
Its really usefull for trading special items which are very rare. Nothing more tho.
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The game needs an in game centralized way to trade. No forums, no “other” forums, and definitely money or fools gold.
I made a thread a while ago about an in game “trading post”. Mixed replies, a few in fear of another “RMAH” flop, even though I suggested that no money is involved. Simply items for items.
If you want to look at what I posted, here’s the thread:
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Yeah, this is just not at all how trading works in d2.
I know because I had 3 brothers and many people IRL that all played, and afaik was the only person who had a jsp account. I would often be given items they didn’t want to trade for them, it was far, far faster to quickly alt-tab, make a post, and go back to farming.
I honestly can’t tell if you’re being serious here, anyone who has used jsp can see how much smoother it is than making a game with 1 trade name.
If what you’re saying is true, there wouldn’t be thousands upon thousands of trade posts on there. And no, it’s not just high end items, even 40pgems are way easier to find/offload on there than on d2bnet.
There is no question in the efficiency. If you have not used it to trade, it is really hard to take you seriously, as you have no experience with it.
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Maybe in time when population on bn was a lot lower than when i played.
It was fast in my time.
This was early 1.10+, at the height of popularity if you exclude 1.09.
Bnet was at its (almost) busiest, and it was still way, way easier to find the trades you were looking for on jsp.
Often when you made a trade game, no one would join, or they would offer other things than what you needed, etc.
Jsp was a lot more straight forward.
I played in that time and i dont remember people using jsp that much, it was quite new back then if i remember it well. There was many trade games created and it wasnt that hard to trade items in games directly.
2004-2007 was very busy for jsp…there were trade games but it was dominated by fg, even the games often had FG in the names by then…it was all over the place, at least on East and West. You’re Czech, right? I have no idea if fg was popular on EU at that time, but it dominated majority of trades by then in NA.
Well, that might be reason yeah.
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Trading is important to me. I enjoy it as a core aspect of Diablo 2. I am hoping for an official Trading Forum on the Battle.Net forums like we had on the old forums. I spent many hours there looking for gear for specialized characters. Even with a small group of friends playing with me and trading with me I need the added loot gathering power of a much larger group of players in order to get the things that I need and some way to arrange trades beyond the hit or miss method of searching for trading games in the chat windows and channels.
Totally disagree. I like the social element of trading through the channels. I like catching text, msging someone, participating in the marketplace when I have something to sell. Usually doesn’t take very long. Social, soooocciiiiaaalllll!
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no we dont… its a remaster, wait for diablo 4 then and dont buy D2R.
Just make a game with the item you need or want and people will see the name in the game list, or you could search for a game with the items you need or want to sell… really a non issue
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And this Is why everyone uses d2jsp for trading 
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AH is horrible. We’ve seen it on D3 and it’s pure garbage. Both the real money AH and gold AH.
The thing with d2jsp is that FG is a currency with value which allows for faster and easier trades compared to ingame trades. D2 had no currency except for SoJ’s and HR’s but their value is too high for mediocre items. Anything below that is hard or time consuming to trade so it’s easy to get on d2jsp, put up a new thread, go to bed and wake with numbers of offers.
The biggest problem is the possibility to buy FG with real money or get FG by trading in other games. This means that the economy is manipulated by other games and with real money. For me, the cost of an enigma is maybe the same as an hourly earnings. After weeks of farming the choice to keep real money out of the game will become harder. At that point every choice is both a bad/dumb choice and a good choice.
I can only see a good alternative if there will be a currency that is used only for trading. But in order to give it value it should be simular to blood shards and/or mats in D3. it has an x % drop chance and is needed by a vendor for certain things. But that might be a thing for D4, not for D2R.
Any trade in game is preferable to outside of the game and it should only take place with in game objects, not real money. A flexible system where any in game object or combination of objects could be set at the ‘price’, perhaps also multiple options for trade per item.
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Too many idealists in this thread. You guys might be nostalgic about making a game and waiting an hour for the perfect trade, only to find out noone wants to part with the item you want for the specific piece of gear you have, or maybe the stats are too low, etc.
The point is that people are using jsp because it is numerous times as efficient as this method, even though some of you may like the game-method.
We still need a more efficient place to trade, even if you yourselves are going to be inefficient traders, because you find that fun.
If we do not, JSP will remain the #1 place to trade, without question.
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