How does that support why you have been talking about what you have been talking about? This survey you keep going back to had nothing to do with my initial comment.
You have effectively turned this whole thing into a debate about whether a survey comment is accurate.
How does this merit any kind of relevant conversation about my original comment.
This is like someone saying “People lie”, and then you joining the conversation with “Here is an example of someone telling the truth”.
Both these guys play quite heavily modded versions of d2 you guys know that right?
They got an opinion just like the rest of us I value your opinions as much as the two streamers…
I know it’s just your opinion, but Im casual, and I agree with Llama so much more. I find he’s very sensitive to the feel and spirit that makes D2 so special. So he definitely doesnt only speak for hardcore dudes.
I would say I’m the opposite of casual when it comes to D2, and I wholeheartedly agree with MrLllama…it’s just we all see or played the game differently. MyLlama’s view is to keep it original, Dub wants a fully modded game.
people like dbrunski want d2r to be a modded version of d2. this opens a can of worms that will end up being a disaster. everyone will want changes and have opinions about everything. the forums are a great example of this. all kinds of crazy ideas coming out of the woodworks like personal loot ect.
blame is to be put in VV for making changes like auto gold pickup and shared stash. not only are these bad ideas but they incentivize people to come up with insane ideas that actually might come to fruition.
if mods are being supported why is everyone trying to make this game a modded version of d2? when will this madness end?
I’m in camp only change QoL stuff like gold pick up, stash size/shared (still want more space), and loot filter (I really want this one). I don’t think new content or changing items/runes is a good thing.
The one obvious non QoL thing that comes to mind is ladder content in single player. Much like the loot filter this seems like minimal work and something nobody would be against.
Loot filter changes the game too much in FFA loot games. If they had personal loot option, I’m all for a loot filter.
I want game be easier is all I keep hearing. I want room to hold everything that drops and keep it all for my self once again make game easier for me. I want to rebalance all the characters. Every time blizzard tried that recently th .y have completely overpowered classes. Changing the loot structure changes the game. The game is heavily based off of items. Any change to the loot changes item amounts and the trading structure. If you watch people play with the mods which have these allegedly “awesome” changes you can see how it knocks the difficulty down. The reason people play and continue to play is because it’s not simple as all hell, it is not complex as humanly possible. It land’s right in the middle. Everyone wants it to be so simple or the latest mod they are used too. Llamas changes were a hell of a lot less game changing. Also he wants rebalancing the skills so he can make ridiculously OP characters. If you make changes to character skills in an attempt to rebalance them you will end up having stupid op characters worse then what exists now. I know this is true because every time they touch it this has happened. Metorb, javazon, Defiance Pally, etc. Happens every time cough Hammerdin cough
You need to listen better, because most of the changes in the poll would not change the difficulty at all, except for builds that will still be worse then the meta builds even after a minor buff. Charm inventory neither a buff or a Nerf, though you could certainly Nerf charms and I wouldn’t care as I prefer the game without them, like in D2 classic.
i like this guy’s take on it more than llama. 3 different ladders is good idea so that everyone will be happy. purists can play the no changes ladder and others can play a modern version that will get updated. win win for everyone. i guess the main fear is that most people won’t play on the no changes and they will be all alone and won’t be able to grief as much. 
The more room in the inventory the more items you hold onto. Stacking items means they do not take up room. This means that you are going to be more willing to hold onto them all. Which means more greedy people which means less trading. Except for changing builds. LOL yea changing builds that is going to change a lot. Okay you make volcano more powerful it becomes like when LOD first came out Assassin and Druid become incredibly OP again. I have played every version of this game from after 6-8 months after it was originally made. I have seen what happens with little tweaks. Smart players like myself will find the quirks it causes and use them. Look up the patch notes you will see how many times they have rebalanced the classes. Other then right before LOD came out this is the most balanced the game has been in a long time. There are viable builds for every single class that can be made to beat the game with ease, mf, and do end game, etc. Every single class. I don’t even run a meta build I run a Tri Elemental sorc that can work in classic D2, LOD, and likely this game as well. It used to be a lot stronger before they messed with energy shield now it takes more skill to play over the large amount needed prior. There are also plenty of other builds that can be played PvM, beat the game, etc.
I agree mods are supposedly going to be supported. SO with that go play P2D and stop trying to change D2R into that. If you want to have all this ploot stuff good go make a mod and play it that way. Find out exactly why it doesn’t work. Stop trying to change a game that lasts 20 years. I agree the gold pickup is laziness. The larger stash is a little too large imho. Also the shared stash should only last like 30 mins to an hour. Any longer then that i can just use the same items on my sorc on like 4-5 other characters. No need for me to get more items. This is why it wasn’t implemented before. Because now you need less items. This game revolves around the items without them it would be incredibly hard to beat the game.
If we were using common sense they would be releasing D2R with every single PD2 QoL mod, there is a BIG reason the modded version are more popular, and blizzards goal is to make money not transplant the remaining few thousand players to a new version with a new paint job.
Sure, couldn’t possibly be bots, or trolls, etc. Not like JSP would love to manipulate that like they tried and did with part of D3 using the reddit forum for that as well. I remember and pepperidge farm remembers. This forum is going to be a lot more accurate of a sampling of people who are going to buy the game because well we already did. I am going to say I am likely 1000% right on this as there is only 600 members of that reddit page. You are going to tell me you got a turnout of over 6 fold for a poll yeah math doesn’t add up.
The likes and comments on my post VS this one would very much disagree with that exaggerated statement, wouldn’t it? 
I never thought i spoke for “99%” of any group. Even the entire D2R forum combined is only a few thousand total. A tiny fraction of the entire D2 fanbase.
but as far as the likes and comments are going? Anyone can clearly see at least ~70% of this forum is against most changes. Not all, like charms inventory, Im also in favor of that. But things like Ploot and most of the other changes the survey suggested, not a ton of support even in this small minority group. So claiming you think you’re 99% or even 50% is absolutely hilarious.
For the record I’m not sure I’m for stacking runes and gems, I think it would mess with the multiplayer economy too much. Especially if we get the expanded stash, but having said that it wouldn’t make people more greedy classic and LOD sorcerers would still run full magic find gear and telekinesis stuff in public games. Also fissure is a good enough skill for fire druids if I was going to slightly buff fire elemental druids it be Armageddon since you gotta spend 5 skill point in wind before you get it. I don’t run meta builds either my favorite is dual element druid.
There are many builds that should work better like fend, but its broken if you take some of the passive skills with them, you fix that bug and give it slight synergy with the other spear skills(jab and impale), I doubt it will over take smite or even vengeance on pally. As both of those have different advantages fend that fend won’t have.
Sure there are many builds that CAN do PVM but I’ve found that even over leveled many struggle to get past act 1 hell much less past the ancients. I’m not saying every build needs to be as viable as smite or vengance. or javazon. But there are still many that struggle more then they should due to bugs or bad tuning.
The only qol feature you will miss from pd2 are the stackable gems and runes. Anything else that they introduced to the pd2 and that is not already announced for d2r is not qol but changes to the game core.
I maxed PD2 stash space in a few days. IDK why we have to fight for stash space when wealth is literally accumulated by hoarding trade assets. This isnt diablo 3 where every better version of a piece makes the other salvageable. Lets just hope we are allowed like 100 character per account so we dont have to account swap mule like the original.
Llama like only really plays solo from my understanding, which means he would not be using d2jsp. Does he also play online heavily and I’m just unaware?