why the charade? that wasnt the first character, it was named meteorbladed or something and it’s been years, dude. You need to let it go, it’s not healthy and i’ll be honest i’m getting kinda worried at this point.
Or just add a paragon filter? Some ppl doesnt play for leaderboard. I prefer to just compete with myself and try get higher paragon each season and try the new builds and enjoy different seasonal themes. I dont rly care about leaderboard or pushing. I would say its most likely more ppl who doesnt care about the leaderboard than ppl who actually does. I dont agree with limit ppls progress or ruin the fun for the players who enjoy the game for different reasons. A filter wouldnt harm ppl and enables players to compare themselves to ppl who put about same amount of effort.
continue to water down every competitive aspect of D3?
No i’m against this. Path of Exile is the leading ARPG and the most competitive ARPG and they dont water down their ladders with filters and surrender to bots. PoE has 10 times the playerbase of D3 today. Just look at the interest in their seasons and then look at D3’s. PoE isnt even half as good as D3, but they care about the players and understand how important competition is and consistently act on banning cheaters and maintaining a competitive season leaderboard.
You’re the minority when you say you’re happy competing with yourself. The majority just isnt here to speak out because they left to play a game that isnt riddled with bots.
U got anything to back up your claims? As far as i know blizzard doesnt share any stats. By the looks of it u seem to be minority. I dont see whats wrong with a filter. Its obv better than capping paragon. 1k is way to ez to get. Most ppl i know doesnt care about getting top spot on leaderboard. And there seem to be only a few ppl in forum who does. And those are mainly low paragon and wouldnt compete anyway. To ban bots u need proof. And bots doesnt give u high paragon. They dont farm paragon. U need to do exp meta to gain paragon
You have to read between the lines. Paragon wins all the time ,paragon is just plain stupid we all know that. Look at lbs and next person to you ,that is about it, you cant compete with no lifers. If the guy just higher then you on lbs has less paragon…i guess that is you competition. Forget paragon its is just an absymal sysyem. I hope they get it right in d4.
Isn’t it what you were trying to do by limiting paragon down to 1000? Because nobody would have been able to do GR150 Solo, like ever?
Nice ad, dude. This is a D3 forum. Also PoE has too many flaws to be a very good, let alone a great game. But nice try.
Why are you making stuff up again? You sure, you aren’t? Well, citation needed then. I can look at the Leaderboards in DIII and see thousands of players every season. Also, dunno about NA, but at the start of the season 23 in EU, servers were busy. I was waiting for like a minute to create a Single Player seasonal game to start lvling. Not including, that the start was staggered, so that not all the players could even create a seasonal character at the same time. And also most European’s first were taken in the first day of the season, but that is irrelevant to the amount of players playing the game.
What interest? You mean a random streamer with 200 viewers getting all hyped about broken PoE? Well, I have 0 interest in PoE seasons just as lots of other people, who have absolutely no interest in PoE.
They sold out to Tencent and prioritize streamers over the actual playerbase. This isn’t caring. All, as I’ve heard, they also nerfed pretty much everything. You don’t make a game more fun by nerfing. That is actually a hint for both Blizzard and PoE. Stop nerfing, just buff other stuff(builds, items, etc).
Partially correct. But, the players on the forums of any given game are a minority. Usually a small % of the total playerbase. And some people tend to be very vocal about the need of random changes on the forums, as if all the players are here and vote on it. No, the majority of D3 players never even saw the D3 forums.
I actually like Paragon. It isn’t a perfect system and the exp curve is a bit out of control… But that has more to do with a huge disbalance between group and solo play, hence Paragon farm. Anyway, I like the idea of Paragon levels and I like the current Paragon levels. Even if it takes too long to get to higher levels solo.
Personally, loved the older Paragon XP curve much more. When every level after 2000 had the same amount of exp required. ~180b. But, it had to be changed, because of no lifers, as you call them.
no it would be the first step
it would dilute the motive to bot and allow actual player skill to separate the rankings on the leaderboards.
i think multiple steps are needed, such as removing the ability for players to run an alt bot/bots for clearing bounties for them to join in at the end and collect 5 caches every few minutes.
Ban turbohud users aka maphackers.
multiple steps towards an amazing game
You don’t need tons of paragon to compete on the boards to compete.
If you want to stop at a thousand, then stop at a thousand. Choose a class that’s not flavor of the month which will be the one most high paragon reachers play precisely because it’s easier to get high paragon with.
Then, look those around you on the leaderboard to see if their paragon is higher or gear is better or both.
If you have fewer paragon, less quality gear or whatever, then guess what, You’re probably better than the people around you on the leaderboard. Grats!
no, that’s what makes a dead game. Instead they should make it balanced and add awesome cosmetic rewards for top players.
For some the competition IS the incentive.
But I take your point. I quit the season a few days ago. But before I did, I made it into the top 30 at something like 1320 paragon on the DH boards. I’ve dropped some since I quit but it’s the beginning of the season where competition is most “fair”.
If a season is fun or I’m just having a blast, I might play longer and not care so much about where I wind up on the leaderboard, but they nerfed our best set back to mediocrity so there is little incentive for me to continue with the season.
But as far as keeping up from beginning to end of season, well I know I can’t but getting into the top 100 in the first week or two, is rewarding in it’s own right.
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Anyway, another point I want to make is it’s about a week since I hit my mark and I dropped about 30 spots. If that holds true till the end of the season, I’ll still be on the leaderboards at the end of season only I would have done it 2 months before the people around me.
The game is not balanced around any paragon lvl. 1000 would be as good/bad as any other.
Sounds like me to a T. 
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I don’t disagree at all. I personally don’t feel there’s a need. Leaderboards are meaningless, the only thing that matters is what I get out of the game and I don’t need to cheat to get it. Even if I did, it’s on me.
Says the guy that doesn’t spend much time playing to get paragon.
No. Just no.
It is a competition.
Because someone has more time to play or plays more efficiently is no reaaon to cap them or anyone.
You don’t limit a marathon runner to train only once a week, because you think you have a chance at winning that marathon…
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Paragon is the biggest motivation for botting. Players who don’t like botting or paragon naturally wouldn’t spend much time competing with bots to get paragon. Would they? Also he has said he’s intentionally masking his progress with multiple accounts.
That is not true.
You say it’s the ‘biggest’ motivation for botting.
There are always multiple factors to everything in this world.
So your answer is only partly and possible true.
Name one other thing in this game more easily botted that produces such a dramatic effect on progress. In the presence of multiple factors there is almost inevitably one larger than the rest as is the case with paragon. It is neither possibly not partly true it is simply true.
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- Bounties
- need the RoRG have to do act1 bounties
- I need all ancient gear so I can move to the next level.
- My hands hurt from playing this game for so many years.
- I work too much and don’t have the time to stay up with my friends or guys in my clan.
- The list goes on and on for the reasons to bot.