Ok, so we’ll stop the discussion here. A good (normal or ancient) item can be better than a primal 
Never said it couldn’t. I said a non perfect primal could be the best item you’ve gotten so far. I have a few normal items on my seasonal Wiz that I’ve yet to replace as their stats are the best I’ve gotten.
And you never come across a good CdR% Ancient Set glove?
Then that means you need to optimize at the cost of losing some critical rating from rings or consistent damage output if you tweak the Valla’s. You are taking no measures to fix this otherwise if you are any aware and act like we are talking about you. Everyone makes a damn mistake, relax. Point is, what you are complaining about ain’t any big hit towards your overall efficiency.
Also I think your Primal torso may have use Reduced damage from Elites better than life%. Your resistances really took a hit since you optimized for Hungering Arrow damage on your pants and belts. You may wanna consider Boar Companion for a while until you fix the issue with survival, or Perfectionist passive if Wolf is your favorite.
No, I haven’t.
I have “fixed” it, what I use is the least downside with the items I have.
I don’t have an issue with it as I’m not pushing with it, I run speeds. I use the Wiz for pushing.
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Why were you complaining about this again? These items are fine for a speed capable build and no where near undesired. I have a feeling that you haven’t seen a bad primal yet; as in a desired item with very bad combination.
For example; I have a Sunwuko shoulder non-Season with armor, regen, and Cyclone Strike damage% which are totally undesired for the entirety of SWK builds. That’s an undesirable combination, because there’s no way that you can fix that, neither you want to equip it anywhere while you can smelt and use it for crafting. However, I have seen people equip very terrible Primals and yet augment them. That’s what I am speaking about, non-perfections will happen as it’s a game about random dice rolls.
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My thousands of Primordial Ashes this season would disagree.
I never said it was a crap roll on the ones I have though, I said they did not roll with the stats I want. They are bad enough that they could easily be replaced with a good normal/ancient.
I’m not, I showed an example of a primal that’s so far the best I’ve gotten but can be replaced by a normal/ancient.
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Then you have no idea how long it will take to replace them. A “decent”, I repeat, decent Primal would be very hard to replace; it would take months may be a year of farming to find an alternative.
However a crappy rolled Primal would be like a few days of farming to find a better alternative instead of that. That’s the issue, people wearing stuff that deserves to get salvaged and try to make it work. You act as if we are mocking people who don’t equip the best of the best combination. No, nobody does that, neither one bad looking affix ruining anything or your gameplay.
My argument still stands on that as well. You have no idea what drops they’ve already got, so judging someone as clueless because their char happen to have a subpar primal equipped does not necessarily mean they are, RNG might just have shafted them.
Never said that either though, doesn’t change the fact that I have sub par primals equipped because that’s the best I’ve gotten so far.
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Primals are not supposed to end the loot hunt the moment they appear for the slots. Still you are not entitled to wear them the moment you found them. You can save them for deciding what to do but eventually they get salvaged for crafting. No excuses here. If you could have salvage and craft a good weapon, why not take the chances? How bad the RNG can get you if you keep playing?
That is a rather low possibility. If they have come that far to augment them, I’d question their knowledge.
If there are more than one, it’s more likely that they think Primals are like some sort of status quo which is entirely wrong. Before finding very badly rolled 2-3 Primals at once, you supposed to have several opportunities for a good Ancient first. If I’m looking at a character with all Primals, there’s a difference between a mule or a very dedicated player for example and that’s the quality of the stat combination.
Well, augment is not really a hurdle nowadays, not for 125 at least.
I’ve crafted 30+ Primal Dawn so far without getting the desired result.
Desired result (CdR%, +dmg%, +AD%) means you get to lose your main stat bonus from the weapon, and maybe that’s for the best until you hit up 3k+ plvl and can augment anything with rank 140+ gems. You sound somewhat fixated on this, don’t force it. Lose of 1000 main stat is actually a big hit unless you can replace or cover it up with Paragon level and augments both.
If you don’t “force” it the odds of getting what you want is minuscule.
Don’t you ever trust the process? It will arrive when the time comes. Trust me, if you were to get ahold of it early, you won’t find it very useful anyway. Also I thought you weren’t pushing with that DH of yours, why trying to get a perfect primal Dawn?
Item’s perfection rating or combination of desired affixes, is not a black and white thing that even the slightest deviation ruins it. You always have space to seek items, which is the point of the game; an item hunt, to thrive. You are either trolling, because you steered this whole thing to be about you, or really wanna share your frustration further. At any case, it was an interesting read to capitalize on the unlucky fellows.
Why not? The whole point of the game is the hunting of items, with the addition of a “free” primal why would I be content with less than perfect?
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What about having fun? Point is hunting items, not torturing yourself with perfection. Such as, not being squeamish just because you were feeling “unlucky” on one affix of the combination of four to six.
If I get a perfect Primal but get something like life after kill, or gold find% at its secondary it doesn’t mean it’s less than perfect. I’m not playing this game by the impression of internet guides. That same item would still carry me to GR150 if I weren’t a total casual. I’ve seen people with normal quality amulets and terribly rolled non-perfect weapons, yet they still bang GR150 in mere five minutes. It’s not really a concern or an obstacle.
I wouldn’t be playing this game after 11 years+ if I didn’t have fun. Perfecting a char IS fun.
It’s not an obstacle in regards to progress perhaps, but whether it’s a concern or not is subjective. What we consider fun or of note is not universal and objective.
Well, objectively it does. Secondary stats matter a hell of a lot less though, so it’s still a top tier item if primaries are perfect.
Depends on the slot. If you are looking at a torso, amulet or bracers, you’d absolutely want reduced damage from ranged/melee, otherwise at least single resistances. But if it’s a defensive piece, and not any of those three, like pants or shoulder slot, you’d want single resistance as an intelligence character or something like chance to proc crowd control effects.
However, are you aware of the permutation of possibilities that takes to get to them? It’d be like what? One in a million? And perhaps that combination also appear to be a normal quality item instead of Ancient until you come across one 'till years. Anything you read on online guides are exaggerated examples. You can’t hope to live and succeed by imaginary blue prints. Your primals are fine, if you really like to hear that.
There are unlucky fellows out there with way worse and not doing anything to alleviate it. Just like you’re not doing anything to alleviate the weak aspects of your build but want to craft the perfect primal like your current position can utilize it any better than what you already have.
You are talking about crafting a perfect Primal for a speed rift build but don’t care enough to optimize it properly if you had any intention of getting it a test run of pushing. You don’t exactly need to do that unless you are really focused on complaining about it.
Why would I like to hear a blatant lie? They are clearly sub par.
How are you confusing need with want? I don’t NEED anything in game, I play it because I WANT to get better gear. That aside, again, my pointing out my gear was merely to make my initial point clear, which clearly seems to have misfired something fierce as you took the discussion in a WHOLE other direction while making wild speculations as to my reasons for the original statement.
What are you even talking about? With the gear I have it’s as optimized as it can get for the goal I had in mind.
You supposed to start somewhere by optimizing the build abit better. One or two bad rolls don’t stop your build from clearing really high content. Alas, if you stack horrible rolls just because they’re Primals and refuse to replace them, that’d be something. With consistent play through, a bad Primal can easily be replaced.
They’re not sub par as they have all the expected stats. You lack some resistances as known by the build (pants and belt, HA bonus) but as I have said, you can optimize it abit better if you care for reduced damage taken from elite/ranged/melee.
At Nephalem Rift farming (I know), RcR% can help you as monsters will die from sneezing at their general direction instead of enduring your hits. If you want your glove piece to be useful at pushes, it hardly matter because it’s still plenty useful for speed rifts. Whenever someone glances at your profile, they don’t mock your Primals. Don’t worry.
It doesn’t make anything clear. Your luck doesn’t correlate with the rest of the community or their quirks.
Are you blind? As already discussed RCR is utterly useless.
You think I care in the slightest what anyone else thinks? I don’t like them because they are sub par.
Clearly not, but you seem to view the word trough some very odd filter.