BLIZZ did you decrease PRIMAL DROP RATES?

I have run over 100 GRs and i had not had a single Primal Drop, what is going on? Are you trying to force us to quit D3 so you can save money and shut the servers down? It won’t work we will prevail!!! hehehe but seriously Drop rates are reduced, i used to get them every 10 to 15 GRs this is bonkers!!!

That kind of drop rate would truly be bonkers.

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Max 12 items from GRs, of which 10 are guaranteed legendary so let’s say on average 11 legendaries per GR. If you got a primal once every 10-15 GRs, that’d be 1 in 110-165 drop rate, way above the long term average.

The long term average for primal drop rate from millions and millions of recorded drops is about 1 in 400. So either that luck of 1 primal in 10-15 GRs is total BS or you were having a really lucky streak, now compensated by a dry spell.

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Yup and I loved it, it made my days for grinding worth it.

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I usually get them quite often but it takes two days or four to encounter even one as a casual player. Sometimes I only get them from Horadric Caches, Kanai’s Upgrades or reforges and nothing from looting and Kadala for weeks.
Randomization is random at times. If you try one way too much, eventually you’ll get less distribution over the course of time. That doesn’t mean you get less lucky, you still have the same chance but it’d be only consistent if you disperse your efforts evenly or have been showcasing dedicated efficiency.

You may have finishing 10-15 GRs but slacking out, to the point of being less effective over time, because now you clear mid-high tiers in 6-7 minutes instead of low tiers for 3 minutes. When you finish a streak of 10 GRs, you get a burnout and leave, while you could finish 15 lower tier GRs in a shorter time span but those won’t reward you noticable experience. As a result, your gambling frequency for dumping your shards, may differ too.
Coming across a Primal drop every 10-15 Greater Rift clear is not uncommon, but expecting it to be consistent is just foolish. I know what guides out there say, they guarantee a Primal drop per hour but they suggest you to stick to GR90-100 range usually because they are the most time efficient band for looting Primals. Still it’s not guaranteed in any way of sense.

You may try your luck at Horadric Caches and Kanai’s, but you may have never enough materials to upgrade or reforge at the Cube. The material you need to upgrade or reforge 400-450 items for a mere chance of a Primal, amounts to some insane stacks such as 12k-20k.
Farming for materials to utilize Cube, from Nephalem Rifts and bounties, don’t reward you good amount of experience either and much more tedious. Also whenever they drop from Caches or Cube, they don’t double up per Season theme bonus like looting monsters or gambling.

From time to time people just like to ask if they have been tweaking drop rates, ironically or unironically, but this hasn’t been the case for a long time since they shut down Auction House. All such threads get derailed to nothing and forgiven about in no time.
There will be times where you wander and don’t find any, by the rules of random distribution or having straight out spending your luck. If you want to get back the same consistency, then you have to have drawbacks from experience rewards. You can’t have both high experience gain and still expect Primals raining on you without getting a burn out, because combat in high tier content are much more tense and takes longer as you go up. In short; keep playing, reduce expectations and optimize if you have to, you still have the same chance but don’t get disencouraged from long hauls.

This obsession with primals is beyond me… There are so many good ancients.
So yes, a primal is classy, but hey…
When I see certain profiles with primals that don’t have the right stats, I always hesitate between laughing and crying

Well might still be the best they’ve gotten. A primal with wrong stats beats normal/ancient with wrong stats. Know for sure I have a couple of those.

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Why keep a primal when an ancient (or even a simple) legendary can be more effective?
For the glory ?

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How did you manage to entirely miss the point of my previous post?

Because you haven’t gotten either with good stats, and as such primal beats both as you at least have a perfect legendary effect and more primary stat. Like I said in my previous post, a bad primal beats a bad normal/ancient.

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That’s actually the question itself, how you haven’t found a good Ancient but still got a Primal with very bad stat combination. Statistically, you should have encounter one or two good or decent enough Ancients with right combinations if you went that extra mile to find a desired Primal.
Dropping a plain Ancient rate is around 20 times more likely than a Primal; if you are equipping a very bad Primal, either you are very unlucky or haven’t been able to tell the desired stat combinations at the first place.

My seasonal DH has a couple of primals that aren’t as I would like them, still better than anything else I’ve gotten in those slots so far.

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I didn’t miss your point.
A (simple) legendary ring with CC and ChC will be better than a primal with only CC (or ChC).
If you don’t find a good (simple or ancient) legendary item before find a poor primal, maybe it’s time to call tech support.

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Cleary you did as in your example now you’re comparing a right stat normal with a wrong stat primal. There’s zero guarantee you would get that before your primal.

Really, that has never happened to you? Rofl, that happens relatively often to me.

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You have very nice Primals, and they’re nowhere near having undesired affixes. If you wanted me to check your profile for bragging about it, you have succeeded.
Primals I have seen people equipped have like life regeneration, life after kill, unrelated skill bonuses and no sign of crucial stats such as vitality, CdR% or crit rating yet people insist on wearing them. This is what I’m talking about at least, as undesired combination. You complain about your ChD%, ChC%, RcR%, 1000 dex gloves.

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Really? RCR is entirely useless.

You mean you can not complete GR150 or a really high Greater Rift if you have tried with them? RcR% gonna put you down? Stop being ridiculous.

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It’s the wrong stat for the item. AD or CDR would be infinitely better, RCR brings exactly nothing useful to the table ergo it’s the wrong stat. I would change them in a heartbeat if I got any pair with either or in a perfect world both.

First, we were not talking about you at all. You are being squeamish. Well done for steering the subject.

Second, CdR% is only crucial for DH to upkeep permanent Vengeance which would be plenty enough with Dawn. As for AD%, it’s a really slow process to slowly upgrade it, including it early at 1k-2k Paragon levels can stall you down for survival or sometimes even damage output by replacing some defensive affixes. If you look at it that way, your weapons don’t have enough AD% anyway, you could easily craft more Primal Dawns if you farm.
Upgrade to your gloves would arrive later, and the exact upgrade you are looking for would be, ChD%, ChC%, AD% and if possible IaS% Ancient quality, by that time you need to have rank150 augments capable, and accumulated around 3k+ plvl to not feel any impact to your damage mitigation and damage output.
Lastly, RcR% is not a bad pick for farming speed rift content. You are complaining about a non-issue.

Normal legendary ring with…
CC : 5.%
and you can reroll another stat

Versus

Primal ring with…
no CC or ChC

Which do you choose? :slight_smile:

To be honest, no

You need 37% CDR for permanent vengeance with a perfect dawn.

Yes, because I lack CDR on gloves and as such had to waste a weapon roll for it.

For a GoD DH it’s entirely useless as you never have resource issues anyway.

Normal, clearly, unless the item in question has a vital legendary effect with a large span that rolled crap on the normal.