LOL if D2 had succeeded, then trading…or rather botting + hacking + duping + item-selling wouldn’t be so prevalent.
The only so-called D3 players who are still salty about the AH going down + BOA are those who miss their income supplement.
No legit D3 player today would require trading to gear themselves. Even a casual player of 3-4 hours per day can complete the season on his own within 2 weeks.
Common sense is a foreign concept to those people. They intentionally refuse to address the plethora of D2’s shortcomings because reality doesn’t match the fantasy-concocted scenario in their head.
They condemn D3’s easier gearing systems + beg for open trading in the same breath.
1 out of 5+ is pretty good, all things considered. On PC anyway…but we don’t care about console because it’s the equivalent of the sewer that is D2 online.
And we don’t pretend like botting isn’t present in D3, like all D2 lovers do regarding the plethora of D2’s blunders which are far worse than D3’s.
Duping, hacking, botting, item-selling, griefing…I just named 5 disasters in D2 without even having to think about it. 5 disasters that D2 lovers pretend don’t exist when begging for open trade in D4, which is ironically the exact same thing that is the cause of said plethora of disasters in D2.
Then again common sense is clearly a foreign concept to D2 lovers.
Not really. PoE has open trade and it only suffers from item-selling and botting. The latter is not exclusive to ARPGs with open trade, D3 being a prime example of a game overrun by bots. As for item-selling, it has to be weighed against the value a lot of ARPG players get from having open trading. Regardless, if you’re gonna use irrelevant arguements that have nothing to do with why a game is good or bad then atleast try to be accurate.
Why would you ignore the console market which is a huge one for D3? Literally makes zero sense unless you do it only to try and win an argument. This is also why you come off as extremely clueless, just a little friendly fyi.
1 and 2. Too rare of gear where hardly no one sees it. Or when the only ones that find it are ones that play around 10+ hours a day, bot or hack. The question is why even have the item in the first place. If only one person out of a million or ten million will ever find it even after playing some 20-30 years means that it shouldn’t even exist in the first place.
Sure items can be rare, but not that rare. I wouldn’t want an item that is so rare that by D2’s early days of adding runes that I would find 14 zod runes long before I would see one of those types of items.
I am sure that with the trading system that they have currently for D4 it would work even if every item outside of magic and rare was for x class only. Still a smart loot system copy of D3 would mean that you would occasionally find gear for other classes. Besides if I am playing the same class as you are but I need different gear for a different build we can still trade under the smart loot system. I just trade the gear you need for what I need.
What is there something wrong with wanting to be able to find the gear that you need with the class you are playing. Do we have to say okay, we will use only one class and one build to farm for all of the rest of the classes. Then wait till the other characters get to the point where they can use the gear that the farming character found. Don’t ever go farming for gear on any other character than the farmer.
That is wrong on so many fronts. If I want to find gear on the character that I am playing then I should still be able to do that without having to have one single character just for farming.
You do realize that gems and runes in D2 were like crafting mats. They served a dual purpose. One to craft the other to be used in sockets.
In closing as long as D4’s loot system is what it needs to be. Where things are not so ultra rare only one out of a billion will ever find one then it will be fine.
It’s the exact opposite of what you want. You’re playing the wrong genre then - stop trying to turn this game into something it isn’t and was never meant to be. It’s an RPG which means examining items for optimized character play is a big part of what this game is. It sounds like you need to go play a different type of game genre.
I love the loot system in Diablo 3 and visuals, which are not cartoonish in the slightest, in my opinion. Torchlight’s presentation is cartoonish. Diablo 3‘s style I’d call triumphant, as opposed to so-called dark, desperate, and dire. if anything I’d like to see Wolcen’s visuals on top of D3. That would do it for me.
In any case, I believe D3 is a near-flawless game with an unbelievable core and addictive and exhilarating gameplay loop. The core, of course, is that silky smooth combat, and that loop is obtaining that loot, which the endgame corrals. Some call for an optional campaign in seasons but it’s in the campaign where rares are important and a good rare drop is especially satisfying and even a few purchases from vendors can significantly alter the course of the game. This is a brief phase, however is long enough to be annoying, which is a good thing in this case, when I really want to get to adventure mode. It’s balanced fairly well.
At higher levels legendaries will drop like raindrops in Seattle but the ancients do not and primals significantly less so and it’s Caldesan’s Despair that I’m trying to rank, which requires playing a lot of one of the greatest games ever made with combat that nothing can touch. Though even the prolific legendary drops pose challenges because they rarely roll my way which means bounties for mats to reroll, which I do not do with ancients. With an ancient I’m essentially stuck with its properties so it’s hard to find and get what I want. I’ve been playing Diablo 3 a long time and soloing grift 150 is the goal with all classes which I’m so far from so for me it’s a lot of game for many more years to come. I’ve tried D2 and don’t enjoy its systems, combat, or visuals and am perplexed at the number of people still playing it. Well, I guess I understand, when D4 is released in 2024 I may be one of the few still playing Diablo 3 and loving it tremendously still.
One of the problems with the loot system is the hunt for Ancients and Primals.
See, a good loot hunt has incremental increases, and things to do with items they can’t use. That way the player can feel like they’re constantly making progress.
The progress in D3’s loot hunt is too erratic, and, once you’ve acquired your basic build and an Ancient weapon, slows down to almost nonexistence… at which point the only things to do are endlessly grind for Paragon, Caldesaan’s, and Primals. That gets boring pretty darn fast, especially solo.
Well many hours of play P800+ and still waiting for that ancient weapon or a primal I am interested in for my PC characters. Part of the play thought is not about gear. For me its about pushing to the next GR level solo. That can be by boosting pLevels, augmenting, or finding a better item. As far as D2. I play alot on its release and later before moving to d3…what I liked about d2"
End game (normal level items) would be starting items for the next difficulty level regardless of magic, unique, jeweled, gemmed or runed, you would have to find the next version of that same weapon to have it do more damage.
I liked runewords and the ability to turn normal items to something special.
What I did not like.
Never got anything worth a dam from Gheed.
Never was able to complete a set. Continued grinding gave me nothing.
D3 what I like
its friendlier to the casual player…we can all get decent gear
Kadala is much better the Gheed ever was in terms of getting something useful
D3 is lacking
More crafting, being able to create your own legendary items from white and blue items…as someone said after l20 you just level them all on the ground)
Jewels and Runes…that was really the thing I liked most about D2
And D3 Still has item houses involved Account Bound Solved Nothing I knew a guy on FaceBook who for years had a linked screenshot of an item house Renting D3 Test Server Accounts he told Buzzard and to all intents purposes they told him Go Away We Don’t Care,And yes Photo Shop Exists so i went and found the site and sure enough they were renting out PTS Accounts before D3 was released so much foe hackers and botters not allowed…Oh and BTW You still can have buy and have an item house deliver items in D3 thats never ended!
No, I’m tired of being told by D3 posters that I don’t have the ability to think. Yet when I do it to an MVP it’s not okay. Just because a person is mature enough to not respond doesn’t mean that trolling and abuse are okay. Eventually people get sick of it and lash out. That’s why referees shouldn’t let games get too rough.
[quote="Strolln-1287, post:139, topic:17211>>–>>>What I said fits on any thread D3 boy.<<<–<< "Exactly and with all the Trolling you Diablo III Fanboys Do you haven’t got a Legit Leg to stand on but that never stopped you Hypocrites
Second, aren’t you trolling when you call someone “boy”? You know what trolling is, don’t you? It’s making comments deliberately meant to incite an angry response.