The current system and personal loot systems do not take into account the percent damage dealt during combat.
I would just use the pre-existing D2/D2:Lod calculations for drop/no drop chance and determining item identity. In FFA loot after this calculation is done, the drop(s) are displayed in game for anyone to collect. Personal loot simply means an additional RNG (or it could be an ordered system) assigns each drop to one and only player.
Alternatively, you could have a timed loot system, where the item can only be collected by a single player for a couple of seconds and then afterwards that drop is FFA.
From my understanding it would be random on who gets what.
I can’t think of a scenario where it would be “fair” to distribute items to specific classes or players based on damage dealt, average participation in the “run” or whatever other factor you name.
Me either. In a group, there are players that provide auras that help the party or tank to keep ranged DPS safer. D2/D2:LoD already considers physical proximity in its drop/no drop calculation, so this physical proximity would apply to those that get personal loot. In that regard, personal loot prevents scavenging for players who were entirely absent during the monster kill from getting loot in contrast to FFA.
That should never happen.
Game is not remotely balanced for it, nor should it be (tanks etc).
If you could measure “time actively participating in combat, that could be used, but eh, just keep it simple imo.
If you are nearby when a monster dies, you are eligible for loot.
This is no different from FFA where leechers are widespread.
Timed Allocation does not solve leeching. But since FFA doesn’t either, it is a wash.
They didn’t use a pirate key generation site. The trick was to change your realm to one in South America, and the price dropped to 2.50$ per key USD, and keys for this game worked on every region, so it didn’t matter what region you bought them from. They JUST changed it 6 months ago to stop it and upped the prices of the south american region keys to be on par with U.S. The people who knew about it told you they were “pirating” it so you didn’t figure it out and had you running in circles looking for something that didn’t exist, so they could continue to resell them for 8-12$ a pop in discord servers and on ebay, and pocketed 6-8$ a key. ALL of the actual initial money went to blizzard, and EVERY key obtained in the last 13 years or so has been entirely legitimate.
You were clearly not in the know enough to have known how it worked.
Pirate key generation site…lol. Pirated keys haven’t worked since like 2008.
Before you post your opinion on the forum and accuse me of not know what I’m talking about, make sure you know ANYTHING at all about the subject matter.
Nobody said anything about buying em for 60 bucks a pop, but when you have 200 people rebuying 1,000 keys at a time every ban wave, and a couple more hundred people buying 50+ each, every ban wave added up to over a million dollars, in pure profit, for a game that long since paid for itself. Then do it for like 15 years. So yeah, it’s definitely a bigger cash cow than d3. MONSTERSOULY bigger.
If it wasn’t a cash cow, they would have kept pushing against the cheats, but the cheats actually put them into a position where they profit MORE off people cheating than not.
well u can try to explain much as u want but u ain’t getting this back. sure u can play many games as u want but DO not ever try to say that u would care even a bit from D2R!
Again, I care about it more than you because I want it to stay around and prosper. You want it to sit and stagnate so you can do the same thing you’ve already been doing for decades.
You don’t care about D2:R as a whole. You just care about being able to stay in your little protective bubble and do what you want.
Lets rejoice in the times of no PLoot and the freedom to hostile and slay as you wish. What a time to be alive. September 23rd, I begin my PvP Bounties. Ears on ears on ears on ears.
You definitely do. Maybe it would help you grasp the concept of decisionmaking.
So when he has 1 bot that 1 bot plays solo because that is the most efficient way to play. Very well, we settled that part. let’s mark this with crayon-green. Green for “easy to understand even for kevmeister”. green startFirst bot plays solo. green end
Now let’s look at the next case: 2 bots. Remember, the first bot is still playing solo, because that is the most efficient way to play (we marked it in green). Now comes the hard part (i will mark it in crayon yellow, to indicate that you might want to pay attention here): yellow startwhich mode will the second bot play?yellow end
I will give you a hint. The second bot will play the most efficient mode as well. But i will leave it to you to figure out which one that is (cough green * cough*).
Now wait. I know what you are thinking. You are now going to tell me “but, but, blash, what if he has 3 bots?”. picks up the red crayon Well, you are on the right track here, it indeed gets veeery complicated now. I will try to move slowly, so that you can follow this very advanced logical deduction.
The green bot is playing solo, because it is more efficient. Got it? Still with me? Keep the Tebonin ready, it will get very challenging very soon.
The yellow bot is playing solo, because it is still more efficient. Got it? Yes, take two pills, i think one is not enough.
Now stay with me, the red bot is also playing solo, becuase it is even with 3 bots more efficient to do that. Got it? You did not like d3? But we are not talking about d3. We are talking about what bot users are deciding. Stop chewing on your crayons!
What? 4 bots? Seriously?
You are aware that bender is not the voice of reason in Futurama, right?
Bender often exhibits sociopathic behavior; he is a pathological liar and rarely shows any empathy
It’s more like buying a jacket, because you like the material and the cut but asking for a zipper instead of buttons to be added. Without having to change any of the buttoned jackets that are already used by others. Nor making them any less comfy just because you have a zipper now.
Excellent. Our ploot suggestion does not change anything about core mechanics.
Once again you misunderstood or simple don’t want to read the full text just because its suits you.
I will explain AGAIN but i know is like talking to a brick wall.
The bot playing in the most efficient way means that he doesn’t have the human error because its a program it doesn’t make mistakes it doesn’t missclick. So if he is playing in a public game just to advertise his webpage the loot is not most important part for the bot here (sure has the pickint enabled and will try to loot the BIS items) but then again the point of running a public game is for advertising since the same person can be botting on the private games to get the loot needed for selling.
And as i mentioned the bot being equipped with whe BIS items run a public game with 7 other players with ZERO effort killing everything. Ergo the players are getting BENEFITS from the bots. With Aloot they get MORE BENEFITS.
So new loot system won’t affects the bots only will benefits players for playing with them
So if you are advocating the loot system because of the bots your argument is invalid.
You have the idea that because the loot is in the floor is yours, guess again is not is from the player who gets it first. That was de design of the game. The survival of the fittest.
And i talked about D3 because i was making a point that if i don’t like the game i dont play it. i don’t whine on the forums about how the game should change for me.
Try to read all the text next and no cherrypick what i said out of context.
In multiplayer, how does a player know if another player is using a macro/pickit cheat? Optional personal loot means that these cheats do not get a disproportionate amount of loot. We already know from MrLlamaSC that half of his respondents who played D2 admitted to using some sort of cheat program.
It could be a usable currency. For that reason i would want to keep the tokens. Just to see what they are worth.
That is his assessment, but he doesnt know. It could simply be that they played it and have a different experience and opinion than him.
Which is far more likely.
The biggest part his his response to that result.
When people vote for ploot, he insults them.
But when people are destroying the game by using bots and maphacks, he just smirks at them.
Quite a revealing part of his video.
i was talking about bots not scripts.
but again you need to advocate for a no scripts implemented
Also yeah there are alot of players using pickit scripts and that. Why? because blizz didn’t care about it for years. look at the lobby and see what’s the last msj from blizz (2016 announcing they will unifying ASIA servers)
My two years old nephew could make the D2LOD script works. it’s silly to assume that this hasn’t been even addressed yet for the remaster.
Also suppose that they didn’t addressed but starts to ban people once a week. (I know they can tell if anyone is using scripts since the last mass ban was in December 2020)
You think that the average guy will lose 40 bucks once a week and start all over again?
The BOTS will be there for sure in D2R at some point because it’s simple if one BOT sell 10 items in one week for 40 bucks this people can buy more D2R licences than they get banned and for the average users is too risky. remember that today buying a DLOD Licence is 2 or 3 bucks.
I don’t consider it necessary to use a tool when the definition of “sampling bias” doesn’t apply to a poll in the first place. I mentioned reasons for that above as well and i agreed to the fact that the poll is statistacally eligible to be considered.
I was wrong on that fact beforehand.
