Yep - in a future no one predicted. You don’t get the future you want - you get the future you get.
Right - and, again - no such system has ever existed in real life.This is meritocracy
We have certainly never had such a system in America.
When was this ever true, in America? It’s an ideal - but it has never existed IRL.
Look at who that primarily targets and you will understand the true agenda at work. This is the legacy of the left post WW2.
This is a statement of religious faith. The West has never been big on nepotism outside of the Royals, America even less so.
Plenty of people predicted it at the time. They also predicted what we see today.
The last leader of the US begs to differ on that. So does every single family in politics, every coal baron, shipping magnate, tech scion, etc. Wealth, privilege, access to opportunity is very much handed down from one to the other. Just because we do not have a Monarchy does not mean that people don’t give things to those they know (family, friends, schoolmates, friends of friends, kids of friends, etc.)
It is not what you know, it is who you know, that gets you nearly anything in this world, including America.
What school you get into has more to do with relatives who attended, how much money you donated, etc.
I am mostly talking about desk type jobs, not trades. Jobs don’t even get advertised if they can fill it with someone they know, or a referral from someone they know. This is how jobs have been filled for thousands of years. Most companies offer a huge bonus to current staff if they can refer a good candidate. I have never had to interview for a real career job. Even the little ones during summers I filled out an app and was hired on the spot.
There is no “best applicant” for most jobs. Just someone who has some qualification (if that) and can be described as fitting the job.
The positions for desirable jobs that ARE open hire are not that common and are obviously applied to by hundreds, if not thousands of people. All fighting over the few open market slots.
How about we actually strive towards the ideal - that ALL positions are openly advertised, accept applicants from broad backgrounds, and hire the most qualified.
Yes, this is going to make people who got their jobs based on who they know, uncomfortable. Maybe they just have to admit, that while they can (hopefully) do their jobs, someone else really was better qualified but never got the chance to apply.
I would love to see school applications and job applications done by number. No name, background, etc. Just qualifications and experience to make the final pool for interviews.
Congratulations on reducing 250 years of American history into one 4 year period.
And accounts for only a tiny percentage of what happens in this country. It isn’t the norm, even if it is the norm among the top .001%.
“Just because we do not have a Monarchy does not mean that people don’t give things to those they know”
You are intentionally being obtuse?
Show me a country where no one had any technical ability and only operated on connections. Show me a hospital where none of the doctors knew anything about medicine and everyone was there because they knew someone. You don’t believe anything you are saying. Stop parroting this Marxist nonsense.
That is only true of IVY league schools. And until very recently, only your grades gained you entrance to the rest.
IOW you are only talking about jobs that have no requirements and don’t produce anything of value, the ones that don’t contribute anything to society.
Good job contradicting your entire premise. You just refuted yourself. Bravo.
That isn’t ideal for one thing. You also contradict yourself yet again. Do you want most qualified or “broad backgrounds”? You can’t even get your script together.
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My statement was pretty clear. I also never said ALL jobs are filled with personal picks. That is pretty obvious.
Your statement is clear is too… you seem to think that “broad backgrounds” means not the most qualified. There is not “one” background that is most qualified.
Maybe instead of hiring who they know, they can hire people who actually ARE best qualified.
Like I said, apply with a number, not a name, race, gender, etc. Let that be the first filter before the end interviews. Actually hire for quals, not for who you know.
That might hurt the feelings though of people who have never had to face open competition for things…
No, but there is an individual that is, and that isn’t related to their background.
Quals aren’t the only relevant factor when addressing social capital. A merit only system isn’t the ideal and carries with it, it’s own problems that often outweigh the gains of having a qualified individual. Secondly, this is a huge waste of time. Stereotypes exist because they impart valuable information in a short amount of time. No, it isn’t always accurate, but it isn’t supposed to be. It is a general guideline. For ever .01% exception that clown world holds up are there are the other 99% of that group who fulfill it EST.
I’m not worried about that because the only people it will harm are leftoids and their minions. Merit is a RW value. LWs are parasitic.
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Hiring people based on qualifications is not a left or right wing thing.
People of all backgrounds, ideologies, and political stripes engage in hiring practices that are not fair and open competition. Period. They hire their buddy, friend of friend, cousin, etc. They half a the job and sit there getting paid. Regardless of who does it, that is bad.
You keep trying to interject political trolling into a conversation that has nothing to do with it.
It is not political to say that sexual harassment and abuse is bad. That a frat culture at work, mistreatment of staff, promotion by “clique”, etc. is bad.
Wanting a workplace that hires based on merit, treats employees fairly, deals with workplace harassment/abuse, and ensures fair and equitable promotion opportunities - is not politics.
I get it, the internet is full of trolls who like to hijack things and mold them into a talking point for whatever. yawn
Be fair, be kind, be responsible, be respectful.
False.
And this will never end.
That is gaslighting to get your way.
Define political.
All of those are loaded terms and highly political today. Maybe if you had said this 75 years ago you might have a case. Today you don’t. We don’t operate on logic or reality anymore in the world.
Yes, you do it all the time whenever you see an opportunity to shill for the establishment narrative.
Often times these are mutually exclusive to one another. Fairness often requires one to be cruel to enforce it. Being responsible often means not being kind. Being fair often means not being respectful.
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Who hurt you? Oh no, they’re going to hire more people. DARN LIBERALS. You people have brain worms.
im gonna delete this post its causing too much problems when all i wanted to do was acknowledge bobby for making a respectable no tolerance policy, people say well it should have already been like that, well why is bobby the bad guy for trying to get a man counseling and help… he told the man u need help, he didnt just throw him away like a piece of garbage bobby wanted to help the man human to human… so he said somethings to a woman years ago, he admitted it and went through the court system and made it right, i respect that… stop trying to ruin bobbys life when the people to blame are the hr rep and the people actively doing these things… the board says they didnt find any wrong doing on bobbys part of how he handled things, i believe its because he tried to get the man help and not just fire him and throw him away. the hr rep should have contacted police, its not bobbys fault… i saw an article where an employee said the men working there are wrong because they like guns and enjoy fitness and working out just read it on yahoo… that is a complete and udder joke… like i said i respect the no tolerance policy… but most of all i respect him for ADMITTING his past wrongdoings and also trying to get an employee counseling… i have a love/hate relationship just like everyone else with blizz but i think everyone is taking their anger out on the wrong person… well i cant delete it so if a mod would like to delete it im all for it, i was just trying to express my respect for the no tolerance policy and try to speak up for bobby… we need to focus on the future not the past people… lets make the future better than the past… blizzard was there since we were young, they didnt give up on us lets not give up on them
The loss of privilege feels like oppression - but though dogs may bark, the caravan moves on.
Of course. Diablo 2 was what got me into gaming.
You don’t get a say in that. You can use Ignore though. To do that go to my avatar picture and click on it. Select activity. Then in the top right use the drop down menu to change it from Normal to Ignore. Then you won’t have to see things you don’t care for.
Hiring people to fit an agenda is never a good idea. hiring people cause of their talent is what makes companies great not saying blizzard is doing a great job but when you hire people based on their gender or race rather than what they can attribute is a step in the wrong direction
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Exactly. So instead of fixing real issues they do some PR BS about inclusivity that in grand schemes changes nothing but it makes it look nicer in powerpoint and journal reports.
And effectivity goes to thrash.
Honestly history has proven us that any movement that goes too far is bad. Just other side of the same coin.
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That’s been tried. They found that when a computer did the hiring based entirely on merit, the overwhelming majority of positions were going to white men… so they scrapped that idea.
Now I’m wondering what those parameters were set for merit.
It’s not that they are hiring more people. They are hiring them based on criteria other than the skills they have to offer.
Simply not true. There’s always a bare minimum for hiring requirements, they have to have a set base of skills. The criteria you’re hinting at is for the diversification of ideas which are derived from different sociological aspects in ones life to add to the pool of ideas to reach their necessary goals.