some people will get lucky, some won’t. people misunderstand the point of ladder though. you aren’t guaranteed anything.
of course not, but there should still be a solid chance. 0.0125% isn’t exactly solid. drop rates like that sound more like a mobile pay to play game, especially if such drops are the legit reason your progress is halted.
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I understand the pain of not getting anything higher than an Ist drop while seeing posts on a daily basis about this and that build, ALL of them taking for granted that the merc is equipped with an Infinity and the farming character equipped with Enigma.
So out of curiosity, I checked out the going price for Ber runes (searches led me to the Bay). They all tend to go for $15 to $20 each. Then I thought I’d sign up for JSP like everyone suggests you do “if you ever hope to get geared” in this lifetime.
Strange how the going rate of about 470 FG is about $15 when you factor in $20 gets you 630 FG.
there is a a solid chance, you are only thinking in terms of you, if you are expecting to play ladder SSF and get everything you want, that’s your problem, it is not that kind of game.
SSF and Ladder? Does not compute, that’s like trying to divide by zero. If the chances of finding a BER are so low and you only have a few months, how does one expect to find multiples (an Infinity takes 2, doesn’t it)? I hear FG carries over into ladder - that would explain it.
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oh don’t worry the players are doing that by themselves. between botters, dupers, people buying up all the highrunes from fair traders and people selling at generous levels and then turning around and selling at way overpriced ranges, why? I don’t know maybe they’re gearing up 5 different characters cause they don’t give a poo. at that point they aren’t even playing the game, they’re just trading to make earn runes, taking away opportunities to acquire them from other people who haven’t been as fortunate that grinded a lot cause those wealthy people have to be selfish. I haven’t gotten higher than a Vex to drop, maybe not even that, I might have traded for mine, I don’t even remember. I know I’ve gotten a Gul and I have put a lot of time in, I’m extremely limited in where I can farm but oh boy 1:700,000 chance from cows, hundreds if not over a thousand runs, nothing, hundreds of eldritch runs for 1:1,000,000 chance from white mobs in the area not including eldritch chances, nothing. Oh but I have gotten sick bases that sold for absolutely NOTHING cause people are only interested in trading runes for runes.
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Well I just got a singular HR build made today, my first of the entire season and it came only from in-game trading. As I suspected it would. I ran over 1000 chaos games myself in p3 with two friends and in that entire time we didn’t find any HR. only an Ist was the highest we ever saw.
I ended up finding a charm and an eth unique that someone valued and THEN I was able to trade for a jah and ber to make my one and only enigma, and my first and only high runeword of this entire season.
Now tell me there is a problem with the HR’s without telling me. Oh yeah thats right. Because people like myself and others who has done 1000s of runs and not seeing a single HR. Has multiple level 90+ characters and who is struggling to find anything worth trading, or worth any value now because the markets are totally crashed.
The reason the HR keeps being so rare is because the drop rate is 0.01% and also anytime one is found by the botters, it is sold and then used in a runeword straight away.
Runes are supposed to be the currency players have set, but they’re so rare that no one has them. I for example don’t have a singular HR at the moment and likely am never going to find one myself. The only people getting the HR are botters or dupers or people who by extreme sheer luck got a 1 in a millions drop chance.
Make no mistake. the majority of HR’s for sale on JSP and other sites are duped or coming from bots. Not regular players.
But there are lower runes, like Ist, Pul, Fal etc, and all used for trading. You can gear up pretty well, without very high runes. Then you can farm gear and runes at the quick and easy bosses: Countess, Summoner, Nilathak, Elditch, Shenk, Thresh, Pindle. I admit, with the sorceress you just teleport everywhere, no need for Enigma.
I found multiple high runes since D2R was released and i am not boter or duper so you are obviously wrong. If you want HR you need to farm places where there is high chance to get some. Chaos is not exactly excelent in comparison to Kurast objects, Cows or Travincal.
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Since it was released? I’m talking about this ladder. I have not found any HR this ladder at all ok. and it’s been out for a month now.
I have been playing over 8 hours per day, so your logic is not adding up here. There is no HR drop rate that is good for us players who dedicate our life to this game and play it like a full time job are still not finding HR’s
You realize the people who run the bots have some of them 100 accounts right? That is how they’re getting HR’s they run 100 accounts and switch every few moments so they dont get banned . That is how they’re doing it. It’s all based on the fact that numbers equals drops when the rate is 1 in 100,000 If you have 100 accounts running chaos all day you will finally get those HR’s adding up like candy.
This is why the regular player cannot compete and why that HR drop rate must be increased, otherwise people will keep spending 10 dollars on these sites and just buying them for real money, which is pathetic.
People are buying them because they cannot find in the game, that is why so many warriors are pay 2 gear when it comes to D2R.
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20 years played without anything higher than Vex is 1000% not possible!
you play 1 hour a week for the past 20 years?
I have found several just this ladder also. Ohm Ber Lo.
If you play 8 hours per day and looking for HRs actively, you are doing it wrong and not doing it very effectively.
I dont really care how are cheaters getting stuff.
This is just nonsense sorry. If you increase drops, botters will still have more than you. You will change nothing. Yes they are bots and its not good, but its not really extreme case wher enormal player cant compete on ladder. Of course you can, you find items, sell them for runes, find runes…
Anyone who buy stuff on RMT sites is moron to me. Like why? If you cant find runes yourself, just buy them by selling items your find. Also people who cant find runes in game are obviously doing something wrong. Its 99% about knowledge and effectivity. If you have both, you will find them.
you don’t need any HR to complete this game in hell mode actually.
if you prefer high drop rate, go play D3, problem solved.
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And btw, you say you play 8 hours per day. I can give you drill to do every day and I guarantee that you will find atleast 1 HR every week.
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Nah, i don’t want better runes drop rate
I want runewords to be worse
This would reduce the requirement for runes
They really need to buff uniques and set and rates and magic and crafts
Also, a way to buff rune drops is to make the whole darn game worth running
Add the “concentration of evil” endgame
Oh yes “they would still have more than me” Even tho I have no HR’s and never found any. so tell me how your math works, how can something equal more than 0. Oh that is right because you want to punish legit players, making sure that a legit player can never get the HR but the botters will always have them.
There is no scenario where increasing HR will hurt the common players experience. In fact it will make it much better because they can finally craft stuff and try to make good items like perfect runewords and getting the perfect gear chase which currently no one is doing except the real money traders who spend 100s of dollars on these sites and real money trade.
That is the only person benefiting from the low HR drop rate. you’re wrong if you think any other opinions about this, sorry to say,
I actually tend to agree on this. Increasing drop rates (in general, not just runes) will harm the botters and the “pros” who seek to make real money.
Therefore I am quite suspicious when I hear loud objections to increasing drop rates. My first thought is “ah another botter/seller who stands to lose real money if loot becomes more plentiful”.
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@Zilliman and @Adventurer
Right into the point mates. Although when it comes to drop rates for unique items these are more or less fine, only few of them(like Stone of Jordan etc) should be adjusted; or just not biased so heavily towards worse items, like for rings it’s biased towards Manald’s Heal.
For runes however, these drop rates are indeed bad. They don’t have to be raised drastically, it’d be enough to make early HRs like Pul, Um, Mal, Ist drop as common as Dol/Hel/Io are dropping now, and increase overall chance to select a rune drop at the cost of lessen quantity of gold/potions - and that’d be enough, starting from Pul-Ist it’ll be possible to assemble higher runes in reasonable time. These ahkem, “pro gamers” don’t understand we common players don’t want to be rained in Jahs, Bers and Zod, but we do want to see a progress - an early HR in a ~2h farming session will be good enough. We also don’t want D2R to become a second job by being forced to grind for eternity.
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If you cant get HRs by playing 8 hours per day, you have far less than botters. You have also less than players who effectively look for Hrs and have betetr knowledge how to find them. You are tryint to compensate own incompetence and abilities with increased rune drops and use bots as excuse.
Of course there is, expensive runewords are not supposed to be common. They are often powerfull end game items and when mjority of player base will have it, game will become too easy, eventualy boring. You will also not have that great sense of acimplisment when you make HR runeword after weeks of playing.
Yes botters can find more than you. Thats reality, but solution is not icnreasinf rune drops to compensate for bots, Solution is to deal with bots and ban their owners. Not damage economy of items even more by terrible choice like increasing drop rates.
You say you play 8 hours per day. I can give you drill to do every day and I guarantee that you will find atleast 1 HR every week.
Yeah let me guess your drill is “kill ghosts” because they are about 1 in 60,000 odds to drop HR vs 1 in 100,000 of chaos. You think I don’t know this? any one with a brain can check those drop rate calculators and see ghosts have a higher odds for HR drop than other monsters. The problem with that strategy is that you have no area with both density and champions unique and super unique like chaos sanctuary has, you also get a boss kill at the end. So you effectively waste time trying to hunt specific monsters for HR’s when you could be at better places for more OVERALL drop rates which is what this whole petition from the community is rallying behind.
We need more HR drop rate across the board, not just from ghost , which are only in specific crap areas. we need ALL monsters in level 85 area to drop the runes, not just at countess or arcane ghosts ok?
I think you know this already but you’re acting dumb or ignorant so you can keep pretending that the HR are easy to get and anyone can get them, when we know for a fact that the drop rate is less than 0.01% and you can never get these HR’s in any predictable manner.
Your whole idea is flawed and you are wrong. The HR drop rate must be increased next ladder.
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