You can run are85 zones and kill elites for elite unique on p1 just fine, running it on more players is not required ant not even that effective anyway.
You can run Andy and meph for common set/uniques just fine, players 1 is enough, you can quest bug bosses also for better drop
You can find runes solo in travincal with horker on p1, more is not needed.
You can play with two friends and do whatever you like to get increased drop.
If you really want challenge and lesser no drop chance to find runes with your strong character, you can find same minded people and do split MF runs.
I play like this for ages and never had issue to find anything or level up.
So my question is, why do you need /players x command online.
Only true reason I can think of is greed. Anyone can provide different logical reason I can add to list which would make sense?
I will keep here list of reasons:
Greed - doesnt need explanation, people want more stuff even when online mode provide enough opportunities.
It saves time - making bigger groups together can take some time.
Being afraid of PKs - some people find others trying to kill them as obstacle in leveling.
I dont have any friends - some people claim they dont have friends to play with or they cant play in same times as them.
I cant trust random people to not steal loot - similer to issue above, probably related to some bad experience from past
Players disrupting games - this is related to people who run bosses or other content in games with other players who want to level up.
I am looking for more challenge - some players want additional challenge as game on players one cant provide that to test their fully equipped builds.
The “quest bug” is actually always on in D2R. And yes it’s always some greedy reason behind, all the logical resons people try to justify their cause.
And here I thought greed was the reason you would be against adding it. After all, if you’re worried about more loot causing values to decrease for your stuff, that’s greed. Otherwise, why would you care if anyone else is getting stuff?
There are several reasonable pro and con reasons that have been listed over and over. Of course if you wanted a real discussion, I’m guessing you wouldn’t have started with a silly attack.
My reason? I want to play players 8 because it provides the most benefit to MF. I also like to play online because I can play with my friends. My friends are not that all into this game, and can not consistently provide me with a players 8 environment. I also play late at night and tend to use substances when I am playing. My behavior is not the best for group play but should I be punished from being able to play at maximum efficiency, solo? While still retaining the ability to play with my friends on the off chance they deicide to come and hang out with me?
No it is not always on. They only fixed andariel drop, other 4 bosses have still quest bug trick for better drop.
Because players x is massive game change affecting variety of things. Grees is reason but i dont mind about that, i do mind about negative effect of that change.
Well I already listed greed effect on MF run is highly overrated tho, playing on p8 significantly slows you down +bigger risk of dying. Killing just elites is most effective way how to MF. Player count doesnt matter for that.
Well find different players then? Easy solution, why change game just because you cant make new friends or even join randoms.
Hmm how would you list it tho? Antisocial behavior as reason? Not saying you are like that normaly, just after using drugs.
The /playerx command was added to emulate more players in Single Player.
Adding this online, would render most public games obsolete - since you’ll get more out of playing solo with high /playerx set - gaining all the experience and loot for yourself.
This is anti-multiplayer, which is what the online part should be about.
Well, I think framing the argument as “need” is a bit of a strawman. It’s something that may be more beneficial than the negatives it brings along. Thus is “desirable”, not “necessary”.
Just buy 7 more accounts problem solved. The botters have already done this and are magic finding full games all day long with their 7 alt accounts. Blizz has even recently reduced the price of D2R so no excuses.
Its like when you would say that you have free ber. Majority will want it as they need it. People always want what they dont have and want more and more. When you have everything, boredom usualy comes.
Well, people desired improved graphics. So we got D2R. I wouldn’t say it’s a greedy motivation. Just something that people felt would be an improvement. I think the same thing can be said about add /player x to bnet. But it does come along with some negatives, for sure.
I cant just find new friends lmao. Like what do you not understand about the appeal of being able to farm at max efficiency on your own time without having to make sure you are cool enough to maintain 7 friendships on an online game?
Yea, the picture of an open mind. You instantly assigned “negative” to the idea the others getting stuff of value would deflate the value of your equipment. Apparently greed is only an issue if it’s not yours.
As for silly attacks, when you ignore upteen threads with actual reasons only to insist one strawman is the only possible reasons anyone could support the opposition. Well, silly was the politest term I could think of.
As for other reasons:
/players scales difficulty. That’s good to either waste less time or to get a more entertaining challenge.
it allows for more ways to play the game than doing baal runs. Getting a fair rate of Xp from other areas goes back to “gee if I play, I should accomplish something”
You don’t always have your friends around to play on the same schedule.
it takes quite a bit of work to organize larger games. Why can’t I play with only a couple of friends instead of the magic number?
The game is hostile to MP in many ways. Shared loot often leads to fighting or ninja’ing. Sometimes you miss a quest and can’t progress. Most infamously is someone else jumps in to tag the boss while the party is leveling. Strangers can (and often do) just hostile you.
That’s 5 to kick of an actual discussion that doesn’t involve your loot issues.
There are lots of us who play online because we want to play with family or friends, but would have been playing single player if they hadn’t removed LAN support from the game. The simple fact that LAN support was removed is a good enough argument for adding players8 to online games. If you’re going to force me to play online so I can play with my son, give me the ability to shift difficulty. Also, give me more character slots. I could have added as many as I want in offline.
effect on MF run is highly overrated tho, playing on p8 significantly slows you down +bigger risk of dying. Killing just elites is most effective way how to MF. Player count doesnt matter for that.
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