I’m pretty sure I can guess at people’s answers “To preserve the experience” etc. But honestly, I’m not a teenager anymore and expecting me to grind out specific rune words or uniques in the ladder itself in a particular amount of time is kind of a non-starter. i’m getting too old for FOMO. I think that when I bought D2R, one of the reasons why I thought it was even viable to begin with was because legacy ladder rune words would immediately be available. I don’t think i would have purchased the game had I known that they would make this design decision later down the road as they iterated on it. They’re basically saying if I want to experience new content, I must constantly reroll and grind characters.
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Bc the rat race is not good enough
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While not necessarily ideal, it’s fine. None of these runewords that are being added are core game changers such as Infinity, Last Wish, Grief, Fortitude, etc. It’s really only a dozen or so, mostly in mid tier range, and will be added to the core game after a few months. This is NOWHERE near as bad as legacy with multiple cube recipes, and many uniques in combination with the runewords that were gated. I figure that eventually, there will be no items gated, once the game primarily hits maintenance mode, unless they switch to a more D3 thematic season style.
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They are keeping ladder only runewords to encourage more people to play ladder
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But what if I can’t farm all the unique runes and/or trade for them in the time allotted for a season? Then they’re essentially locking me out of content. I’d be fine with this if the ladder-only rune words came to normal/non-ladder once the season was over.
i don’t think it’s the case
the old “ladder runewords” are available on non-ladder (and single player)
it is the NEW ladder-only runewords and horadric cube recipes that will be exclusive to 1 ladder and then be allowed on single player and non-ladder.
P.S. actually I wonder if the ladder-only cube recipes are available non-ladder, did someone cube Surs into a Ber on 2.3?
This is exactly what is happening. The current 2.4 runewords will be allowed in non-ladder and offline once the ladder season ends. Then, a new set will be created for season 2. This won’t be for every ladder, but generally ladder only stuff will be funneled into the core game after each season.
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Where did they say the new stuff was only exclusive for 1 ladder? i guess I missed that in my research
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In the stream with Llama when they first introduced 2.4 back in December I believe. They discuss the ladder only in the beginning of the stream, and state that it will be season locked until the end of the season, then be allowed in nl and offline. At the end of the stream, Llama asked the question if new runewords every ladder, and Rob laughed and said something to the degree of don’t hold us to every ladder, meaning that this will not be an every ladder season thing. I can only assume for the first few ladders, they will trickle new runewords into the game, then either switch to ladder being the reset + leaderboards only, or introduce seasonal themes similar to D3.
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when did you buy d2r? because prior to the ladder delay there was no guarantee ladder items would be in non ladder.
“They’re basically saying if I want to experience new content, I must constantly reroll and grind characters.”
yes, that is exactly what they are saying. that is how ladder works (and many similar games). You got your legacy ladderwords for non ladder due to delays and there was ZERO reason to think there would never be ladder specific content. In fact, there were many reason to KNOW ladder would have its own content. You are delusional
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thats not surprising you missed it since you apparently didnt research the game at all
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You mean I don’t sit down and watch every freaking stream? HOW DARE I NOT DO THAT? I did plenty of googling/etc.
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no, you didnt spend even 5 minutes. you are shocked that there is ladder only content but act like you have played d2LOD. you act like you are being lied to and they are GATEKEEPING ME BRO. like no they arent. there is no right to be able to get every item you ever wanted in non ladder or else they are being rude to you. get a clue
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You’re just some nasty narcissist who likes to bash people. Like at this point, it’s already established that the RW are coming to non-ladder at the end of the season. So why don’t you get a clue and save your breath? And is it REALLY that crazy to assume that if they make a game-changing design decision at the outset that they wouldn’t continue it?
Your first statement is false, I took more than 5 minutes and finding it buried in a stream requires that I watch all of them. Some of us have a life. Sorry. Just so you know, being the last to respond doesn’t mean I agree with you. it means you’re not worth my time.
EDIT: I love how in your response you say someone helped me read when they CLEARLY stated it was in stream. Like who can’t read here?
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yet going on a forum to complain about this travesty be committed against you was worth your time. got it bro.
if you took more than 5 minutes and thought non ladder would always have the newest content you arent very good at reading. I dont understand how after 20 years someone wouldnt understand ladder is always where the newest content will be and only sometimes will non ladder have it.
so now that someone helped you read and you get your precious (mid game at best) runewords after the ladder are you no longer being gatekept from the game?
and yes it is ridiculous to assume ladder would never have new feautres. the reason they gave non ladder the old ladder RW was because ladder wasnt ready for launch. that was insanely clear
edit: i have watched 0 streams ever. this was readable in print and no steam following necessary. good try to deflect. thought I wasnt worth your time?
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Dude, just stop. Everyone knows you are bitter over ladder. No need to be a jerk sourpuss to answer a simple question. We also do not know every thought behind the devs actions. The ladder only ungating at launch could have been in discussion way before it was known to us consumers that ladder wouldn’t be active upon launch. It may have been planned, it may have been in reaction to the community’s response when they found out. It isn’t 100% certain. However, ungating the ladder only was in discussion within the community way before launch, and you can bet your rear end the devs had knowledge of this.
The fact our new ladder only stuff is only timed exclusive, shows the devs know that the community as a whole, does not like permanent locked content gated to ladder, but still wanted to promote a reason to play ladder beyond the race and reset. They balanced it in the best way possible, for now.
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this dude is acting like their is a crime being committed against him because there will be ladder only items. in what world is that rational? my points dont become less valid because of my ladder complaints. thats just a way to deflect from the reality this dude is way off base. the only one locking anyone out of content is himself for choosing to not playing ladder. key word being CHOOSING
And you are blowing this out of proportion. He was expressing a simple sentiment, one that has been stated many times over in the last year. As for choice, with our new system, yes there is a choice. Legacy wise, nope. Choice was playing demo starter mode vs full mode in legacy, or mod your game to experience full content (Plugy). You are bitter, that is fueling your sourpuss negativity instead of just simply giving him the facts.
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nah, you are reacting based on my other posts. the facts are he is being ridiculous with his complaints. period
what on earth does plugy have to do with this. more deflecting and distracting from the core argument. expecting every new RW and change to immediately be in non ladder is ridiculous and should be called as such
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And from my perspective, you’re ridiculous.
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You think FOMO is good design?
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Not even the Wowhead site with the interview and summary had that detailed this had this detail in the rune word summary so yeah, still don’t have time to read the whole internet bro.
I mean to each their own, but you have to realize that you’re more ridiculous from my perspective. And I never said it was a crime, it’s just not what I’m into and that’s a decision the devs can make. i’m perfectly happy with them choosing you over me. And I never said I wouldn’t respond, I just said if I don’t it doesn’t mean you’ve won.
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