Ultimate Auradin Guide [Dragondin, Tesladin, Frostdin, Auradin, etc.]

Paladin
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I did a lot of testing, theocrafting,talked with MacroBioBoi and checked theamazonbasin for more information on that topic.

Things you should know for each Auradin:
Pulse Damage:

  • Dragon, HoJ, Dream, Doom and Ice cast an aura separat on you.
  • Those auras DO stack!
  • Self cast or Item cast auras won’t overwrite each other.
  • Only items with the same aura type, increases the level of the aura.
  • Only hardpoints in synergies buff Holy Fire, Shock and Freeze.

Melee/Range Damage:

  • Different aura Types will add up to the Elemental damage buff (Holy Fire + Shock + Freeze = Fine)
  • The strongest aura of the same aura type will overwrite the Elemental damage buff of the weaker one (lvl44 Holy Fire + self cast lvl30 Holfy Fire = You only get the lvl44 Holy Fire Elemental buff)

Puls damage ranking against cows:
#1 Shockerdin/Zeus
#2 Dragondin
#3 Holy Fire Dragondin
#4 Auradin
#5 Tesladin
#6 Frostdin
#7 Budget Tesladin

Shockerdin/Zeus (6-8458 pulse dmg)
Gear:
Dual Dream, 6 faceted Swoard or 5 faceted Caduceus with +3 Holy Shock +3 FoH +3 Holy Bolt, Max Holy Shock and Synergies, Enigma, Arach, 18 FCR Amu +2 Skill, 10 FCR Ring, Bul-Katho’s, Offensive Aura Skiller, Sunder Charm, CTA+Spirit offhand, Infinity Merc
Gameplay:
Teleport, Stand still for 2-4 Seconds, perhaps punch a bit, repeat. You could skill into FoH and Holy Bolt, to spice it up.
Summery:
He’s the one with the highest pulse dmg, but compared to the other quite weak and really boring to play.

Dragondin (6135-7302 pulse dmg)
Gear:
Dual Dragon, HoJ, 3 Faceted F R/W Helm (Flickering Flame is safer, but only the - Enemy Fire Res effect the damage), Raven Frost, Amu (Cats Eye, High Lord or Metalgrid), Conviction 24 (yes, even 25 is good against immunes monsters), zeal for melee dmg, sunder charm, CTA+Spirit offhand.
Merc Act5 (Plague, Crescent Moon, when Plague not available Lawbringer), Act 2 Merc (Might, Reapers Toll), Act 1 (Harmony). Act5 recommended with Flickering Flame
Gameplay.
Run and Charge around (faster R/W is more fun), it has by far the largest AOE, you have to run conviction yourself, otherwise he sucks. Some even run him with a tele staff instead of CTA.
Summery:
The most fun of them all, especially with F R/W, variable Gear (MF, or survivability, or dmg), due to the large AOE he clear p1 cows faster than a javazon. IMO the 2nd best aura dmg dealing Paladin. Can do P8 with survival gear

Holy Fire Dragondin (6502 - 7769 pulse damage)
Gear:
Dual Dragon, HoJ, 3 Faceted F R/W Helm, Raven Frost, Magic Amu +3 offensive F/RW or Life or 8 FCR, 2x Bil-Katho’s, Arach, Mage Fist, Inferno Strides, Sundered Charm, Holy Fire and Synergies maxed, Offensive Skillers with F R/W, zeal for melee dmg, CTA+Spirit offhand
Merc Act 5 with Plague, Crescent Moon, Andy (or Flicking Flame if you don’t want to run Inferno Stides)
Gameplay:
Very similar to a regular Dragondin, deals more pulse dmg, but lacks in power against immunities, for that you have your merc.
Summery:
More expensive compared to the regular Dragondin and Fire Immune Monsters are very unfun for him, that’s why I ranked him lower.

Auradin (1948-7090 pulse dmg)
Gear:
Dual Dream, Dragon Armor, HoJ, Convicion 24, Raven Frost, Amu (Cats Eye, High Lords or Metalgrid)
Gameplay:
very expensive and not very powerfull, does more variable dmg but lacks in power, AOE isn’t as big, is independent from Merc, zeal for melee dmg, CTA+Spirit offhand.
Merc Act5 (Plague, Crescent Moon, when Plague not available Lawbringer), Act 2 Merc (Might, Reapers Toll), Act 1 (Harmony).
Summery:
Plays like a worse version of a Dragondin, not by much and is far more expensive, he is more about braging, can do P8 with survival gear

Tesladin (2-3970 pulse dmg)
Gear:
Dual Dream, Cresent Moon or Grief, Enigma, Raven Frost, 10 FCR Ring, Arach, 18 FCR Amu +2 Skill, Fanatism (yes, really!), 20 IAS gloves, sundered Charm, zeal and it’s synergy sacrifice, CTA+Spirit offhand
Merc with Might and Infinity.
Gameplay:
Teleport, wreck everything, repeat. Crescent Moon will allow better AOE dmg, Grief better Single Target dmg. Zeal is your main dmg source
Summery:
By far the strongest and best P8 Aura dmg dealing Paladin. He can even do Ubers with the right gear. 48 FCR Bp makes him traverse quite quickly, especially in dungeons. He is like a hybrid of a Zealer and Dragondin, with tele. Can do P8

Frostdin (1641-1654 pulse dmg)
Gear:
Beast (Caduceus +3 Holy Freeze) or Azurewrath (5/5 Facet) , Nigthwings (5/5 Facets), HoZ (5/5 Facets) (or Targe JMod (4x5/5 Facets)), Enigma or 4 Socketed Armor (4x 5/5 Facets), Dracu, Bul-Katho’s, Raven Frost, Nosferatu’s or Arach if you use Enigma, Gore Riders Offensive Aura Skiller, Sundered Charm, Holy Frost and Synergies Max, Zeal for dmg, CTA+Spirit offhand,
Act2 Merc with Infinity
Gameplay:
Similar to a Tesladin, just worse. For extra stylepoints you can get a 4os Nova Armor (which can be purchased by Larz) to have the same blue as Nightwings.
Summery:
It’s fun to mix up the visuals and playing something off-meta

Budget Tesladin (1-1881 pulse dmg)
Gear:
Full Griswold’s Set and put whatever Light facets you get in it, Seraph’s Hymn, Natalya’s Soul, Raven Frost, Bul-Katho’s, Blood Belt with Light res, Lying of Hands or Dracus or lava Gout or Bloodfist or Sanders Taboo, Sundered Charm, Offensive Skillers, zeal for dmg, Demon Limb offhand,
Act 2 Merc with Might, Reapers Toll, Tal Rasha’s Helm, Treachery Armor
Gameplay:
He is a zealer, charge for traversing

I’m open for feedback and criticism, but please stay constructive.
Also if you notice typos please let me know, so I can fix them, thanks.

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Dual dream zealot help
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Thank you for the guide, it gave me a lot of valuable ideas about the Dragondin that I’m building. The equipment, the mercenary (more).
I confirm for the Frostdin, it is really fun to play, it is extremely safe in terms of survivability. It’s not a machine, but for those who want a build that changes while remaining effective, it’s very good.
I totally advise against those who don’t like blue, hahaha.

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For overall best versatility (farming, ubers), Tesladin beats Dragondin? (trying to decide whether to make Enigma or Dragon for gg archon plate that dropped on ladder)

Nvm, I saw that you said Tesladin best overall on another thread. Thanks!

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@MoeB
Yea, the Tesladin just hits like a truck, which is better for boss killing and higher player counts.
The Dragondin is just insanely good with his pulse damage, it also does have a respectable punch, but not as impressive as the Tesladin.

@Eckhart
Glad to hear that the Guide and Frostdin get’s some appreciation :smiley:
I also updated the Frostdin, because a +3 Holy Freeze Caduceus is hard to find, an alternative is Azurewrath with a cold Facet.

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#5

Thanks a lot for all the work man.

If I wanna play a pure passive playstyle where I do not attack myself and just let my auras kill everything, which would be the best among these seven builds?

#6

Obviously the Shockerdin, but that one can get very expensive (I like to run the Zeus Setup with 39FCR for FoH).
But I find the Dragondin more enjoyable, because of the larger AOE, and he is also cheap in comparison.

#7

But wouldn’t a dragondin be better? I mean with dragondin I can use 2 dragons, flickering flame and hand of justice whereas with shockerding I can only use 2 dream and rbf socket swoard (or crescent moon)? I mean I will have a level 50 holy fire aura vs a level 30 holy shock aura and I guess a maxed out holy shock aura from your skills, but as far as I know the holy shock from items will not be added to my holy shock from my skill tree.

#8

Hi,

thank you for your work. Pretty amazing guide. The comparison between the variants and the personal feedback are very interesting as well.

I’m playing an Aura based Paladin my self. Started with the Tesladin in S1, tried the Dragondin in S2 and experimenting around on non-ladder since. Atm I’m running the Auradin variant. I wanted to try something out and i’m curious about your opinion.

I really enjoyed the Dragondin and would like to build him better against the fire immunes but stick with an elemental damage rather than boosting physical. Even with Sunder and 25 conv i find him a bit lackluster, specially in higher playercount. In that regard: Have you thought about a Variant of the Dragondin but using a lvl 30+ Holy Shock Aura yourself? And since you only get 20% out of your 25 conv against sundered or immune monsters, give your Merc a lower lvl conv instead. (= -30% Res lvl25 conv vs - 17% Res infinity)

Full gear would look like this:
Dual Dragon, HoJ, Griffons + Light Facet to boost Holy Shock Light Dmg, Raven Frost, Amu (Cats Eye, High Lord depending on Player count), 20as gloves, gore riders or tri res f r/w, Holy Shock 30+ (With Off Aura Charms), Fire+Light Sunder, zeal as primary attack skill, CTA+Spirit offhand.
Act 2 Infinity Merc + COH + Flickering (I’m not sure about the Aura on the merc, mb Holy Freeze for survivability), Low Player Count Act 1 (Harmony).

Compared to my Auradin gear, the numbers look pretty tempting. What i’m not sure about is how or even if, the missing ‘bugged’ aura ticks from the dream pieces factor in the build. I read that there is some weird stuff going on where you get multiple aura ticks per gear piece? Also i’m lacking on life leech due to lack of physical damage. Maybe with Hustle dropping to non-ladder, I can use Draculs for life tap but this would also require a little phys damage

Obviously the whole setup would be pretty damn expensive but let’s not focus on that :smiley:

Do you think this could work? Maybe the build would be garbage… idk :smiley:
I’m glad about your feedback/opinion.

#9

No, you won’t have a lvl 50 holy fire aura with a Dragondin, you’ll have a lvl (14+14+16=)44 holy fire aura.

That means any +skill or +fireskill does NOT increase the lvl of your Holy Fire from Dragon or Hand of Justice. Same is true for Dream, Doom, or Ice.
And yes you are correct there, those item’s WON’T increase your Skill Auras. See them more like another player aura, which sits on top of you. With 3 suchs items, you have 3 players on top of you casting an aura individually from you, but their special ability is, that they increase just their aura skill lvl and they do benefit from your synergies.

The Dragondin is nearly as good as the Shockerdin and there is very little difference.
But the Shockerdin has less resistances he has to fight against, has faster traversal speed and can be more passive.
The Dragondin has to fight more resistances, has a larger AOE with a larger conviction radius as well, but you need to charge around all the time, and he is slow in dungeons.

That’s why I recommended the Shockerdin, but overall I would always recommend the Dragondin over the Shockerdin.

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I mean, yea, maxing out Zeal and sacrifice adds like 450-500 damage (which is like 4k DPS) to a Dragondin.
If you put points into Holy Shock and resist Shock gives you more diversity, but than you rely on your merc to be near you once again, which can be really annoying.

Beyond P3 you don’t really kill with dmg auras anymore.
So going with your concept, I think a Tesladin is better suited, because more res, more flexible skill points, enigma, static and better single target damage.

But instead of Fanaticism, you run Holy fire and Highlords Wrath (30FCR is good enough).

So after a bit of testing, I think that might be the winner.
He hit’s as hard as a Tesladin with grief, but with static.
His pulse damage against cows is 619-4443.
Can farm everywhere.
And has Enigma.
Only downside 28frame for zeal instead of 24

Dual dream zealot help
#10

Yea I know. You always outrun your merc and then you loose his item wielded aura for a short moment, kinda sucks. The idea behind the build was to stack as much elemental dmg as possible. Therefor using the lvl 44 Holy Fire Aura from the Dragondin and combining it with a high self wielded Holy Shock.

I know but the attack damage bonus from Holy Fire or Holy Shock is still pretty high.

I ran the numbers on that and kinda liked it. I might try that tbh. I tried using a belt for attack speed but in only brings you to 74% ias :expressionless: You can solve the attack speed problem with a Hustle pre buff tho (or mb even wear Hustle armor :thinking:?). Hustle is pretty expensive right now on non ladder tho. If it feels awkward to play at the 28 frame zeal. You can always switch back to grief. Theres also the possibility to switch from Enigma to Fortitude for extra Physical dmg. Especially in Cows I personally dont think the Teleport is needed. Eventhough with Enigma you don’t have the problem of outrunning your mercs Conviction.

But still, the numbers on this variant would be superior compared to the Tesladin + HF Of course you loose on Tesladins mobility and survivability. If i come across a Griffons I think i’ll give this a try. I’ll let you know how it played out :smiley:

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Thanks for your opinion and for your feedback. I got one closing question, regarding to the auradin:

Is this still a thing and do you think this would end up in a big dps lost, when switching from gear based Aura to self wielded Aura?

Thanks in advance :slight_smile:

#11

Let’s look at the Auradin Gear with self cast dmg Aura, because his thing is to stack elemental dmg on his melee attack.
Dream helmet (Shock lvl15) = casts an aura (lvl 30)
Dream Shield (Shock lvl15) = casts an aura (lvl 30)
Dragon Armor (Fire lvl14) = casts an aura (lvl 30)
Hand of Justice (Fire lvl16) = cast an aura (lvl 30)
Paladin (Freeze lvl 20) = casts an aura (lvl 20)

So you have 5 Auras on your Character, which all hits at the same pulse tick.

That’s why I went for a Holy Freeze aura, otherwise you would lose the melee elemental buff on your self wielded or gear wielded aura. But I would recommend to run your own conviction in that case (Just used Holy Freeze for better demonstration).

I hope that answers your question, if not please lemme know.

#12

Let me see if i got it right. To speak in Numbers against p1 cows with lvl 25 conv:

Dream helmet (Shock lvl15) = casts an aura (lvl 30) = 2–2335 Tick dmg +
Dream Shield (Shock lvl15) = casts an aura (lvl 30) = 2–2335 Tick dmg +
Dragon Armor (Fire lvl14) = casts an aura (lvl 30) = 972–1210 Tick dmg +
Hand of Justice (Fire lvl16) = cast an aura (lvl 30) = 972–1210 Tick dmg =
1948 - 7090 total Tick dmg per Aura Tick?

So you’d get the maximum lvl 30 aura tick dmg per gear piece? Is that how it works? If so, does the same principle apply to the attack dmg as well? I hope I picked the right numbers from maxroll. I wasn’t sure which ones are for the Aura Tick dmg :sweat_smile: (i ignored the holy freeze aura)

That would mean, if i switch out Dream for a self wield Holy Shock i’d lose (2-2335) dmg each Aura Tick?

#13

that’s correct

yes

No. Read that part below once again

That means for MELEE and RANGE attacks you also get a elemental buff, beside the pulse damage tick from 1 Aura. But the elemental Buff to your Melee/Range attack won’t stack with the same aura. Just for the elemental buff on your Melee/Range attack won’t stack, unless it’s a different aura type.

No, you not only lose 1 Holy Shock Aura for it’s pulse damage, you also lose the melee/range buff and the item Holy Shock level will also drop from lvl30 to lvl 15.
But yea, you gain your self cast Holy Shock, which does pulse damage, most likly will overwrite the melee/range elemental buff from your lvl15 holy shock aura from dream.

Damage summery:
Dream helmet (Shock lvl15) = casts an aura (lvl 30) = 2–2335 Tick dmg +
Dream Shield (Shock lvl15) = casts an aura (lvl 30) = 2–2335 Tick dmg +
Dragon Armor (Fire lvl14) = casts an aura (lvl 30) = 972–1210 Tick dmg +
Hand of Justice (Fire lvl16) = cast an aura (lvl 30) = 972–1210 Tick dmg =
Pulse Damage → every 2 seconds in a 23.3 yards radius you do 1948 - 7090 dmg

in addition the the pulse damage, you get an elemental buff to your melee attack.
Holy Fire level 30 = +2916-3628 fire damage
Holy Shock level 30 = +1-7005 shock damage
Melee/Range Damage → each time you attack, you do 2917-10633 elemental damage beside your physical damage.

If you wanted to boost your Melee/Range elemental buff even further, you would do so with Holy Freeze, because there you would gain 803-815 additional damage from a lvl 28 Holy Freeze aura.
If you use a self cast lvl 28 Holy Fire aura to boost your elemental damage, that lvl 28 Holy fire aura get’s overwritten by your lvl 30 item Aura (from HOJ+Dragon), so you DON’T add any additional damage to it.
BUT you still cast a lvl 28 Holy Fire aural, beside of your item auras, which does just pulse damage.

#14

Allright, I got it now.

For clarification my initial plan was to play the lvl 44 item based Holy Fire Aura alongside a lvl 33(ish) self wielded Holy Shock Aura. Thats why I asked about the missing dream aura ticks.
With your clarficitaion (thanks :slight_smile: ) from my understanding now, I would end up like this :

Pulse Damage → every 2 seconds 4135 - 8097
Melee/Range Damage → 5336-14489 elemental damage beside marginal melee damage.

(p1 cows, Merc Infinity, Griffons w light facet)

Thats the highest elemental damage I was able to squezze out of all the variants. Of course of the cost of mobility and survivability but resulting in the fastest theoretical Zeal ttk for cows and 145% Fire res monsters

Thank you for your help :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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#15

No Problem.
Glad I can help out.

I would test that offline with a HeroEdited Char and see if you can accept the fact that the merc is all over the place.
When you get your hands on a +2 Pala or +3 offensive amu with tele charges, I think that would improve your build even further.

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