Truth Bomb: D4 Without Trade Won't Stop Bots OR Buying Items

If they do allow no soulbound items like in Diablo 2 right now it will be kind of sad. Right now in both Season and Ladder in Diablo Resurrected you can go to a ‘free’ game and get free annis, free +3 Class skill charms, free raven frosts and free uniques that are best in spot. Of course the items are not going to have the perfect best in spot stats - the guys who drop them keep the better ones.

But the point is the no soulbound aspect of the game makes it a bit sad. It is rather boring to get a sigons set drop or even and Immortal Kings drop because you already got them in a free game- or in a random Cows game where people drop them by Deckard Caine after he identifies them. It makes them game lame. It would make the game last longer and be more exciting if there were no soulbound items. I would never buy some guys time in China to play my account or buy an account to have all the items. But I will get a cheapened game experience if guys drop set items that are not upgrades next to their stash.

So how do you trade items on d3 then? I guess it involve account sharing or something else with account which could work in d4 too but it has great risk of loosing account. Thats huge repelent for people to buy stuff. You then also cant resell items, another complicatio.

Open world will also be complication, quite a big one based on how randomized world will be.

I guess there could be some follow bots or something, but based on what we know so far, it will not be easy for bots.

And yes it will effectively kill RMT. But sadly it will also kill free trading.

I would be ok what ever they do in D4. its a new game, new games new ways.
old games old ways

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They removed trading from diablo 4? Way to make it more of a dumpster fire lol.

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Right? Let them do what they want, and I can keep my money, or I can spend it. If it’s good, it’s good. If it’s bad, it’s bad and if it’s decent but not my cup o tea, it is what it is.

Nah, you can trade most dropped (not gambled or crafted) items (not gold, gems, or crafting materials) with anyone that was in your party for like 2 hours. So even if you keep something someone asked for and decide you don’t need it you can whisper them later and give it to them. No real incentive to keep items you don’t need unless low on crafting mats. More social in that regard. In D2R, you keep because the item has value outside the game. That’s a big flaw in the trade game. Items trickle down much better in D3.

People that haven’t played D3 since RoS dropped and was tweaked should really try it. There’s a lot more to like about that game than the naysayers let on. Most of the “I hate D3” crowd are just ignorant blowhards.

The other nice thing about D3 is there isn’t skill synergies to contend with. All your synergies come from the gear. Allows for a great deal of variation in builds without investing skill points that are worthless.

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Dude… that ship has sailed, over the horizon, over the edge, off the edge of the world. D3 just turned into “which modifier will we buff to 30,000% this season!” … no.

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At least that shakes up the meta every now and then.

How long have hammerdins been meta?

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It shakes it up like being tossed in a trunk and driven down a dirt road, but yeah, sure if that does it for you.

Meta doesn’t matter if every class has a blanket 30k% skill that kills everything. All builds feel like they play the same, there’s no class identity. Moreover, hammerdin is hardly a meta build in terror zone patch. Sorceresses are kings, so are javazons. Hell, even necromancers are extremely good.

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You’ll have to forgive him, D3 is a better game because it had 10 gazillion sales in the last 10 years, and ploot.

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But that variation is just want the devs have chosen based on which skills they’ve decided to buff to 50k% on the set that they decided will be good. I haven’t played in a few years so things may have changed, but I remember long droughts where several classes couldn’t even farm T16 efficiently but other classes were asking for T20 and crushing GR way higher. If you can’t farm mats and gem levels efficiently you were just left behind.

Of course it won’t. These d2jsp/trading is bad/drop rates should be high cry babies have zero logic. Clearly none of them played d3 where there is zero trading and yet paragon leveling experienced rampant botting! It is all stupid af. Just allow trading, d2jsp is going no where, ban people who cheat and create a true separate SSF ladder (which will sadly still have rampamt botting as all arpg games do). In fact even if there is absolutely no trading, just like in d3, you can pay someone on d2jsp or an item store to log onto your account to find all the legs/sets you want. What is the difference cry babies???

Blizz could not get rid of blizzhackers website (a truly eula violating site unlike d2jsp) which easily lasted for over 10 years before the site owners decided to call it quits but there are people who think they have the power to get rid of d2jsp…LOOOOL

Core of the game is garbage, game is boring. Yes i know team was trying to make some things better and had success to some extent, but if you put glitter on crap, its still crap.

Thats the thing dude, d2 is fun still after 20 years without need of changing meta. While d3 need to changed is a lot because game is boring.

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D2R is far worse in terms of botting than D3.

Initially, D3 had trading that caused a ton of issues. When restricted trading was introduced that helped to dramatically reduce these problems.

RMT is easy with free trade and does not require a stranger to login to your account. Most people are nio stupid enough to give their account details and password to a stranger that can then steal the account.

That is a HUGE difference.

I am sorry, but any repetitive activity that is done for 20 years often becomes boring. A vibrant life requires evolutuon and variety.

Since the first seasomal GR 150 clear was seasn 13 or 14 (I forget which one), your idea that everything one shots mobs is factually inaccurate. Even now there are classes with few GR150 clears.

And still milion times better than d3, because you can freely trade.

You are delusional. D2R is not changing, it is still 99% the same as classic d2. Botting is not stopping. D2jsp is not going anywhere. D4 will be like D3. End of story. Not having fun with D2R? Life goes on.

D3 did have free tradeinitially so are suggestion that D3V is superior to D3:RoS?

Most disagree.

The main topic of this thread is trade in D4. I am not saying that D2R should eliminate trade. I am discussing why D4 will not have trade given the history of D2/D2R and D3.

D3 initialy had free trade but game was still bad as whole. Itemization and forced gold as currency also sucked.