This is you keeping the game the same? Stop listening to PVMers LOL

Backpedal* babe. Learn English.

And if they disagree with my assumption then I encourage them to come and correct me. So what is it then? What is the problem? I don’t see anyone telling me. :smirk:

I’m clearly stating that I am open to people’s answers about my question, whether I asked it in good faith or not. So what does it matter?

I can spell backpedal.

That’s what it means… LOL I think you forgot how to use google.

I’m sorry for your daughter, she has to grow up with a sexist swine of a father. Disgusting. I’m so sorry for her.

Actually, I have proof that you’re a misogynist. I called out the sexism of the people complaining, did I particularly aim that message at you? Did I @ you? Nope. But you instantly felt targeted by my message, you INSTANTLY felt the need to reply to me. Do you know why? Because you’re a misogynist and you knew I was talking about you.

Checkmate :smirk:

EDIT : No response? Didn’t think so. :smirk:

There are these things called cell phones that have auto correct. Sometimes one might flub the keys and it takes a best guess. Not every word is in their dictionary so they get things wrong sometimes. If the best you have is calling out typos… weak.

You didn’t ask it in good faith, and it gave way to an immediate supposition that they must not like the buffs because they are sexist which is a ridiculous and brain dead assertion. Nothing of the kind has even been hinted at until you arrived with your garbage. What I was calling you out for, and why it matters, is that your default take is that every male is sexist and they need to demonstrate otherwise for you to feel differently. That they are “one of the good ones”. Do you know what the word prejudice means?

I will help you out: “an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.”

Your prejudice in this case was formed by your hatred of men, also known as misandry.

No, it doesn’t. You are dumb af. The definition, from Webster:

Definition of misandry

: a hatred of men

It says nothing about advocating for a matriarchy or female superiority - it is simply about hating men. The word fits you perfectly.

I am used to this type of thing from you - I am unphased. It just demonstrates how full of hate you are for people you don’t even know. Everywhere I see you posting, it is this same kind of stuff. If people call out your hate, this is how you go at them. Actual Evil flows from you.

So, you assumed they were all sexist - which is my whole point about who you are on a fundamental level. All of the people complaining must be sexist - there would be no other reason why males playing a video game would be upset about a potentially imbalanced build on a female playable character, in your mind. That is because your mind is rotted out with sexism and misandry.

No, actually I didn’t feel targeted at all. I wasn’t complaining about buffs to the amazon (literally the opposite), so your message wasn’t about me at all. I just saw you screeching your hatred and had to laugh at how stupid your take was.

lol I don’t live on these forums. I don’t just sit here waiting for your reply.

Gross.

What’s weak is you believing anybody is going to fall for that. HAHAHAHA earlier it was a typo, now it’s your cellphone autocorrect? Yeah ok, just accept the free education. You’re welcome :relieved:

You keep repeating that point even though I’ve explained myself multiple times, it’s like you don’t want to listen to women or something… :thinking:

This was my question.

This was the small jab I made at the sexist males who argue about it for no good reason. NOT ALL MALES. I’m NOT assuming every male is sexist. My comment is targeting the ones that are. Again so you can understand me, if you’re even listening. I don’t believe every male who opposes the buffs do it because they are sexist. That’s ridiculous :joy: you have been attacking this strawman for entire hours now even though I have explicitly said I don’t believe that! :joy:

Did I hurt your ego correcting you multiple times? Are you angry because a woman has corrected your bad grammar and spelling, and now you resort to copy-pasting online definitions to me in a condescending manner? Because I’m a woman? Is that how you talk to your daughter? :joy:

For the second time, I love men. :joy: But I’m sure you believe you know my thoughts more than I do, you sexist male.

I cringed. How can someone be so self-righteous and so wrong. The sexism is jumping out :joy:

I know the definition of misandry. It says a LOT about female superiority. They don’t hate men because they believe men are superior HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU’RE FUNNY :joy:

Unfazed* babe. Was that autocorrect too?

Nope :clown_face:

Yawn :yawning_face: you’re just repeating the same false things.

No, you felt targeted. Another one of your lies. If you didn’t you wouldn’t be here arguing with me, but here you are defending your misogyny. Pathetic, corny. :yawning_face:

You edited your message 7 times. SEVEN times… Let that sink in… :face_with_hand_over_mouth: Tell me you don’t sit here. LOL

Gross sexist man. Checkmate. :smirk:

lol the quote mentions typos and autocorrect. Both happen on a phone? In fact, typos lead to a lot more auto corrects that are often incorrect.

Just a small jab. lol okay, More of that backpedaling.

Again, I wasn’t particularly interested in your viewpoint on the topic, the question, etc. I was pointing out how you jumped right to the assumption that they are all sexist (which you did, and said you did, multiple times).

Sure, you simultaneously assumed that the upset about the buffs was just due to sexist males, but also didn’t make that assumption. The ones that are? Like who? Sexism was not and is not an issue in this thread… until you showed up. Can you even point to someone whining without good reasoning about the buffs? Seems like their reasoning is that it imbalances PvP for a small PvM payout. Your assumption that sexism is to blame if someone doesn’t state a reason you agree with to oppose the buffs is 100% due to the fact that you are a misandrist. It is not an assumption a person without a disdain for men would make.

And “Like myself”? Besides calling you out, my entire argumentation in this thread was that the buffs were fine.

You spew hate on males you assume are sexist all over these forums. You demonstrate your hate repeatedly. You do not need to launch into a tirade about female superiority to earn the label of misandrist. The hate is enough. If you don’t understand that, study the four word definition of the word for a bit. its all there.

lol I came back after almost two hours and added quotes to the reply as I went. I posted in other topics at the same time. That is just how I respond on the forums. Most of my posts have multiple edits.

lol the classic “you are just attacking me because you are an ‘-ist’” shtick. Talk about lame arguments. If you think calling me a sexist because I pointed out your sexism is some sort of own… /yawn. None of the things that are awful about you have anything to do with your gender. it is 100% your personality. it is always the same thing from you. You can’t handle anyone disagreeing with you or calling you out without hiding behind a “yOu’Re a SeXiSt” retort. Nobody can possibly disagree with you in a conversation without being a sexist, it seems. All you have is hyperbole and deflection.

God I just destroyed you didn’t I? You have nothing else to add, sad and pathetic. Let me destroy you once more :joy:

Both never happened, again. You’re welcome for the education. :relieved: What would you do without a woman like me huh? :joy:

It’s only backpedaling in your head because that’s how you convince yourself your entire argument has a leg to stand on. In reality it’s not. Come back to the real world buddy :joy:

So I’m guessing you weren’t listening… :joy:

WITHOUT GOOD REASONING.

Seems like that’s good reasoning, I wouldn’t call that person a sexist. Now do you understand, my dear? :joy:

Would it be a correct assumption that your sexism is to blame for being a grown man, a husband and a father to two women you say you care about, and throwing a baby tantrum at a young woman on a diablo 2 forum over her calling out other men for their misogyny? :joy: Because like I said, if you really weren’t a misogynist, baby this NEVER would’ve happened… :relieved:

CORRECTION : I challenge the attitudes of males that are sexist on these forums. :point_up: :relieved: that’s different! I do not hate men, you hate women. You are so bothered by a woman challenging the misogynistic attitude of other men, you’re so triggered right now. Why you mad? :joy:

:thinking: … Your brain short-circuited again :joy:

More excuses I do not care for. You take this very seriously, you have to edit your post 7 times. Laughable :joy:

I’m pretty sure you’re the one calling me a sexist because I’m pointing out YOUR sexism… But again, reality is distorted in your narcissistic mind. You CANNOT be wrong, can you? Again… I pray for that daughter of yours… :pray: Are you gonna kick her out of the house when she starts having intercourse with her boyfriend? NO, WOMAN! YOU ARE TARNISHED! :joy:

I welcome people disagreeing with me with good reasoning. But you’re just a sexist :woman_shrugging:

What else is there to add? You came in alleging that opposition to the buffs was due to sexism and now you are trying to soften it so you don’t come off as a misandrist. It isn’t convincing. There are no new points to make.

This is the bit where you backpedal and try and misrepresent. “I didn’t mean all men”. lol you sound like a redneck who stood in line next to a black guy once so he just can’t be racist.

Again, Like who? show me an example. Further, like I said already, if it is not good reasoning to you then its just sexism. That is why you are a misandrist, because you just assume that men are sexist unless they prove otherwise.

That is literally the entire point of this thread. Watch the video in the original post. That is the entire point. This just demonstrates that you came in having not read the conversation, having not watched the video, and just screeched your opinion that everything is fine and if you don’t think its fine it must be because you are a sexist. Because that is all you do on these forums - call people sexist.

  • Which men? Show me the rampant misogyny in this thread you were calling out in your first reply.
  • It is incredibly weak for you to come in here swinging and then hide behind a “but I am just a poor young woman” defense. Strong woman, or weak damsel. Take your pick - you can’t have both.
  • Being a husband and father means I can’t call out sexism when I see it? lmao

No, it didn’t. I asked you to study the definition of the word ‘Misandry’, which is four words long: “A Hatred Of Men”. Four words. Read much?

What sexism? Insulting a woman is not sexist, especially with things as mundane as ‘you are dumb’ or calling your take stupid. If I said you were stupid because you were a woman, you would have an argument. That was not something I said.

Where do you get this ish? I have not said a single disparaging thing about women. This is my whole point about you - every man is like this quote of yours in your mind, you just won’t admit it. A man has to prove that they are “one of the good ones” to you. This is the same as a “I’m not racist but…” statement. And just to be clear - you can call people all sorts of vile filth but ‘dumb’ and ‘stupid’ hurt your fee fees? You don’t get to insult people, call me a swine, a bad father, etc and then cry foul.

You came in here and called people who opposed the buffs ‘without good reasoning’ sexist. I did not oppose the buffs. You never called me a sexist in your original post. I pointed out your misandry and now you are just hiding behind ‘you’re a sexist for calling me out’ and ‘but I am just a weak little girl, you bully!’

I have said a few things about you (dumb, stupid, sexist, misandrist, and Evil), but none of those things have anything to do with you being a woman (which is something you just mentioned for the first time in your last reply).

But, seriously, if you are going to argue that you are just a young woman and people shouldn’t argue with you… okay. You can’t handle it, even though you came in here swinging, so I’ll give you the out - adding you to Ignore Forever is fine by me.

What’s not convincing is you trying to blame your public school education on your phone autocorrecting words that don’t exist. :joy:

Yes, backpedal, the word I taught you. Good.

Says the guy who said I’M NOT SEXIST, I LOVE MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER! :joy: I’m not sexist I love A WOMAN! HAHAHAHA

Why would I do that?

No I don’t.

Actually I wasn’t calling this particular person out. There are 100 posts on this thread, you assume I was addressing his because, again, your argument has no leg to stand on if you don’t completely mischaracterize my position.

Again, why would I do that? The misogynists flock all around me every time I mention anything about sexism. I don’t need to seek them out, they come to me, just like you have.

I never said I was a POOR young woman. I said I was a young woman defending other women. I wasn’t establishing a power dynamic between us at all, if anything I am superior to you because you can’t spell anything and can’t think rationally :smirk:

Being a father and a husband means you should be doing better for the sake of your daughter. But I like you better on here, this way maybe someone else better qualified is raising her right now.

You asked me to study the definition of misandry… and prejudice… and hate… that’s a lot of words I don’t know which one you were talking about! I don’t live in your head grandpa, you know women have individual thoughts don’t you?

You called me a femina*i for defending women, that’s pretty sexist.
On the other hand, where have I said someone is stupid because they are a man? Using your same logic, wouldn’t that prove that I am not sexist? :thinking:

You can call me whatever you want, you’re the one that seems to be hurt because I am telling you the truth about your sexist values. You’ve been doing a lot of projection :joy:

I never said I am a weak little girl. Again you are just making things up. I said I am a YOUNG woman, you’re angry and you can’t see things clearly. I called you a misogynist and you are hiding behind FANTASY.

They have everything to do with me being a woman defending women. You are sexist, misogynistic, and I pray for your daughter :pensive:

Actually, let me do the honors. REDACTED, but you know what I said. Bye! MUTED BLOCKED IGNORED FOREVER! LOL HAHA BYEEEEEEE

LOL WHY YOU REPLYING I’M NEVER GONNA SEE IT!!! ADIOS… :smirk:

hyperbole and evasion.

Mocking and deflection.

Yes, why would you substantiate your main claim, that you were addressing sexist males you saw in this thread. I suppose the more important question for you would be “how”, seeing as there were none.

You did, so you do.

Right. You just came into a thread you didn’t read and labelled people sexists without any context just in case there may have been some secret sexists lying in wait. What a joke. There were no sexists posts to reply to, no sexist themes, You just came in to label the men as sexists, because that is what you do and how you think about men.

lol “I called all the males sexist for no reason and with no evidence and they said that was a hateful thing to do. Don’t they know I am just a young woman??” so. pathetic.

You played the damsel card and it was pathetic. I see your misandrist views are coming through. By the way… what women?

You are just this raging child out on a crusade to protect imaginary women from imaginary men.

I don’t want my daughter to view anyone as anything because of their immutable characteristics. So yeah, I will call things out when I see them. That includes when misandrist young women dive into a public, family friendly forum topic they didn’t read or watch to call all the men sexist for discussing game balance on an upcoming patch.

Correction, just prejudice and misandry. I think you needed the lessons. As for which word I suggest looking at the context clues. Only one of the words that were defined had a four word definition. So out of two possible right answers, all you had to do was count the number of words to figure it out. Tough, I know.

Again, what women? Was there a woman under attack by sexists? Where? Did you save her? You are such a hero. To be more specific I called you that due to your misandry. Some radical feminists do actually hate men, and feminists can be male or female (yes, men can be misandrists, too). I also didn’t call women that. I called you that because you fall into that camp based on the words you say. I don’t know why else you would jump into a thread you didn’t read and assume you needed to address a host of sexist males. I wouldn’t go into a room full of women thinking I need to to be wary of misandrists because I don’t assume things about people based on their gender.

Which values?

yes, I exaggerated the case because you were trying to use the fact that you were a young woman as some sort of defense for your actions and shield against being called out for being absolutely vile.

See, you called me a narcissist, but I think you need to realize something. You are not ‘women’. You are a ‘woman’. None of the things I said were about women. They were about you - a specific woman. Unlike you, I do not assume anything negative about someone based on their gender. However, when an individual engages the way you have, I can call them a misandrist, or say they are dumb for saying something dumb, without speaking about their gender or applying the negative aspects of that individual to their gender. I never did that. You did, on multiple occasions. to dozens of people.

Wonderful. May we never cross paths again.

First we dont have that much restriction rules and a lot of them are fairly obvious (example, using slow missile on a caster). And we dont want too much of them, especially because we think that would discourage new people to seriously try pvp.
Second, yes, balancing the Amazon is really hard. Its a synergy system you know ? you cant balance one skill with out nerfing the others as well, and all 3 (ga, strafe, multi) potentially needs different balancing.
Third, there is no possible rules balancing anti stun mechanic (SOMETHING THAT IS SPECIFICALLY HERE FOR PVP) and Blizzard still don’t care about what we told them on that.
Changes like Amazon dodge are also impossible to balance for us

I don’t want to sound mean, but reading about all these rules and regulations that exist in PvP only strengthen my opinion that PvP was not meant as a serious thing in this game, because it wasn’t thought out properly from design stage. Characters aren’t balanced, it seems more like a rock/papers/scissors scenario to me.

I agree also with the statement that PvM becomes repetitive and stale after a certain point. I’m there, and not even geared up. I would like to get into PvP but the entry ceiling seems so high, rules so complicated and for me, an outsider, the community quite “unwelcoming” that I ask myself why even bother

Even if PvP wasnt intented originaly, (and it was, there is data showing blizzard originaly planed arena for diablo 2 lod) does it matter at this point? We have been playing it for 15 years and more, participating greatly to the economy. Do we deserve to get stomped like that by Blizzard when we dont even ask that must, just that they dont massacre the game we loved for so long ?

About starting PvP, the community is quite welcoming actually. The pub game arent.
Read that if you are interested, i hope it could help you :slight_smile: :
Introduction to PvP in Diablo II: Resurrected - Guides - Wowhead

Thanks for the link, I will read it :slight_smile:

And no, no one should be stomped on. I strongly think there is a solution to satisfy both PvM and PvP, just that I’m not sure how visible/high it is on the backlog of those who actually decide what happens to the game.

As a primary bowazon player, this is bloody funny to watch :joy: :joy: :joy:

Going to scan this thread to see if anyone took this too seriously…

Actually, it’s made a profound effect on PvM as well, mainly for bowazons in the budget stage but also some light but noticeable power creep for top tier bowazons too.

I have a thread about this for those interested:

Sexist, and wrong. The 2 cornerstones of being a feminist.

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That seems to be true as it has similar effects like in pvp, because of overall Ed or lack of it. Didn’t have time to test this for pve.

It didn’t feel noticeable on a faith zon, slightly more on wf builds, but I was not really impressed. The increased arrow stack helped more on higher player count than the extra ed

I did players 1 and players 8 cows for 2.3 and 2.4 with a top of the line Faith GMB. Both 2.3 runs were noticeable faster.

The players 8 one in particular had a 12% DPS increase but also had a run time that was 12% faster - 7m20s vs 6m32s. This shouldn’t scale so linearly like that, we should only see like a 5-8% run time improvement at most in theory.

The only reason it does improve it that much is because it’s that much easier to keep my merc alive now because the cows were going into hit recovery more often and were dropping faster, which meant I didn’t need to baby sit my merc as much. It’s actually quite noticeable, even though the videos I’m uploading may not show this.

I think this is in conjunction with the fact that your DPS is higher and therefore using less arrows. I have noticed the less arrow consumption/arrow management as well.

I didn’t have the merc issue in cs before nor after, maybe that’s why I didn’t have the impressions you got.

The problem with an ed buff on an endgame bowazon is that she already gets a lot via conc,faith,dex,forty, Ed jewels. It helps more with less offweapon ed, but I think removing the penalty on MS would have helped more

Yeah I’m glad they’re not removing that multishot damage penalty, a synergy would at least benefit more budget builds where it’s more needed more than top tier.

A test budget build I used gained like 45% multishot damage from these synergies compared to 12% for top tier faith.

This is weird as i have a 25% increase on PvP build for multishot. But i guess it can be explained by the lack of aura from mercenary and the fact you put more dex into pvm build than pvp build

It really comes down to how much off-weapon ed your build currently has. PvP builds have lower dex investments and no merc so 25% sounds about right.