This is you keeping the game the same? Stop listening to PVMers LOL

Sexy, and right. The 2 cornerstones of being a feminist.

Anyway, like I was saying : BOWAZON is on the WEAKER side of PVP, and COMPLETELY USELESS in PVE.

What is a PVMER? Player VS Monster?

Are you one of those wanna be pvpers who couldnā€™t make it in a proper pvp game and are now looking to make it in the top100 ranking of a pvp game by joining one that has no more than 100 members? Stop making me laugh. No one takes your PvP Serious. Literally besides the 100 people who faild in competitive pvp games.

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Thanks you for your kind words, i wish you the best farming mephisto and andariel :slight_smile:

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I think you struck the nail on the head sir.

Cal-m 1.6, A rank CPL starcraft bw, 2400 3s WoW pvp, Diamond 3 Valorant. Still playing D2 for the pvp aspect all throughout these. Very fail at competitive games though.

btw this meme is fkn hilarious, watched it like 3x over the weekend, his laugh is so infectious lol

Cool story bro an Internet andy trying to brag with random video game ā€œachievmentsā€.

At this point Iā€™am not sure if I should pity you for the amount of wasted lifetime if this is true or for the struggle of recognition on an internetforum from a stranger or both :frowning:

Iā€™ve never heard of any. There are pvp events on that forum iirc, but you get rewarded with FG.

Iā€™m not sure if you included me here, but Iā€™m not arguing against it. Iā€™m well aware itā€™s one of the best economy sinks in the entire game because nobody in their right mind would spend 40 ber runes on trophy items just so they can kill monsters with them. However, if I wanted to play a pvp game, I would just pick up dota 2 and even get to play with pros because I have a pretty high mmr. There are no stakes in diablo 2 pvp and I still believe its nature is rock paper scissors at times.

I havenā€™t been active in PvP for years in D2, but back then, you had tournaments with entry fees and real money prices.

I was pointing at the haters that want to ruin a game mode for no reason.

I always preferred pvp games with an even playing ground or where skill and experience are more important than gear or unlock-able content. D2 pvp was always fun due to the latter and deserves to be balanced and considered in changes.

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Its not even on d2jsp anymore. There is a few discords dedicated to PvP. People there organise tournaments every week

I mean personal insults are cool when you lose the argument I guess.

I was simply negating your point of ā€œAre you one of those wanna be pvpers who couldnā€™t make it in a proper pvp game and are now looking to make it in the top100 ranking of a pvp game by joining one that has no more than 100 members?ā€.

But I guess these kinds of discussions arenā€™t allowed to you? Nice guy.

After watching that vids, looking back at the sorc changesā€¦

Nova mana cost reduced. The initial mana cost is now 13 from 15

Sorc: thatā€™s all we got :joy: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Do you realize that this game itā€™s PvM right?
this game wasnā€™t made for PvP.
so when balancing or making strongh and viable builds we need to ignore at 100% PvP.

This game was made for pvp and pvm. Thatā€™s why they added pvm and pvp.
Mind=blown

The fact that they fixed wsg and modified the way fhr works shows they care about pvp. (even if the changes were bad xD)

You know that there was PvP option from day 1?
You know this game was made for both modes?
So when they are balancing they need to ignore 100% of what you say.

Thanks for playing.

Yea Amazon didnā€™t need any Bow skills buffed they are already too strong.

Guided Arrow is a PvP skill, just like Bone Spirit is a PvP skill. They are for PvP not PvM. There are specific PvP skills/talents. This game is both a PvP and PvM game and no buffs should be made to try and make PvP skills viable in PvM. The old Devs understood this.

PvP is vital to this games success and economy. If they mess up the PvP meta then PvM falls apart and MFing becomes pointless since the economy is trashed.

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There is no such thing as pvp skill. Boths Bone spirit and guided arrow are used in PvM.

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Wrong. There are talents/skills there were specifically designed for PvP. Can you use them in PvM? Sure, but they were designed for PvP and thus are PvP skills. Itā€™s not complicated.

So trying to make PvP designed skills viable in PvM destroys the intricate balance needed for this game. Since PvP has always been so important to D2ā€™s success and longevity. PvM canā€™t work if PvPā€™s balance is messed up. Which is why the ā€œOLDā€ Devs always made sure to not buff talents used specifically in PvP up for PvM purposes. It could ruin the overall game for everyone.

These are the facts. Good day.

Wrong, they are not, every skill is primary used for pvm, but majority can be also used in pvp. Not all skill of course because main focus is on pvm. Its really not complicated.

PvM doesnt need pvp to work at all. Dude where you getting so crazy ideas lol?

So i guess my offline pvm doesnt work since there is not pvp right? LMAO just stop with that nonsense.

I get it,you like pvp. I like pvp also, but you dont have to twists facts because of it dude.

Old devs broke game in many ways. Current team is fixing their bugs and mistakes.

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PvP never was balanced and it will never been balanced.
They canā€™t destroy the game for the pleasure of a very few players that do PvP consistenly.

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lol. pvp players thinking theyā€™re a large portion of the playerbase. LOL.

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twink account thinking that he can change peoples opinion by repeating his BSā€¦

Sad little troll.